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248. Will Putin be able to flatter Trump?

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🗓️ 31 January 2025

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Armed with new insights from their recent trip to Ukraine, Saul and Patrick discuss the latest developments surrounding the ongoing conflict. They take a look at the diplomatic stage, as the latest signals indicate Putin is seeking to flatter Trump ahead of any potential upcoming negotiations. They also delve into listeners questions that range across a host of different subjects, including what the opinions of Ukrainians are towards a variety of pressing issues. If you are interested in donating to Reusing IT, you can find out more here: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7281708536277942274/ If you have any thoughts or questions, you can send them to - [email protected] Producer: James Hodgson X: @PodBattleground Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Battleground Ukraine with me, Patrick Bishop and Saul David.

0:17.5

The future of the Ukraine war, it would seem now, lies in the hands of just two people,

0:23.0

Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin. Their calculations about how they play their respective hands

0:28.6

as maneuvering begins to bring an end to the war will ultimately decide the fate of not just Ukraine,

0:34.8

it will also reshape fundamentally the landscape of European security.

0:40.5

Well, personal chemistry obviously is going to play a large part in this drama. And given the

0:45.7

massive egos, massive but also fragile, it must be said, of those involved, anything could

0:52.3

happen. That, I suppose, makes speculation rather futile,

0:56.8

but nonetheless, there are enough known knowns for us to feel confident that we can make a few

1:02.1

safest predictions about the likely Russian strategy, wouldn't you say, so what?

1:07.6

Yeah, I'd love to think so, Patrick. I'm not sure that is the case, but the first noises

1:12.6

coming from Moscow suggest that Putin thinks he might be able to play Trump by flattering him.

1:18.8

Admittedly, not a bad opening move, and he's chosen an interesting way of doing it. That is, by

1:23.6

endorsing Trump's unshakable conviction that he is the victim of a historic injustice

1:28.7

when in his mind the 2020 election was stolen from him by Democrat skullduggery.

1:35.3

This is what Putin said. I couldn't disagree with him that if he had been president,

1:40.1

if they hadn't stolen victory from him in 2020, the crisis that emerged in Ukraine in 2022

1:46.4

could have been avoided. So the message is Trump is a well-statesman who would have sorted

1:52.2

out Ukraine if it hadn't been robbed of victory. Now, this is soft-sooping of the most blatant,

1:57.7

obvious kind, isn't it, Patrick? Designed to create a special bond with Trump that will enable Putin to strike a deal with him

2:04.2

over Zelensky's head. The question is, will O'Donnell go for it?

2:09.3

Yeah, the charm offensive has been going on for quite a while now, of course. The Russian

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