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Battleground

25. Leopards are coming

Battleground

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🗓️ 27 January 2023

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

This week Saul and Patrick react to the huge development that Germany is finally releasing its Leopard II Tank's, and that the US is following suit by sending their M1 Abrams Tanks as well. Patrick also speaks to old friend and experienced war reporter Julius Strauss, who gives an excellent report from in and around the front lines near Bakhmut. If you have any questions you'd like to ask Patrick and Saul, please send them to - [email protected] Disclaimer - episode contains some graphic descriptions over the handling of dead bodies, and is not suitable for children. Producer: James Hodgson Twitter: @PodBattleground Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:48.2

Yeah. Hello and welcome back to another episode of Battleground Ukraine with me Saul David and Patrick Bishop.

0:55.5

Well, the mood in Kiev must be very upbeat this morning with the news that both the US and Germany have finally turned on the kit taps and have agreed to send both Abrams and Leopard 2 main battle tanks to give

1:01.5

a mighty boost to their armament build-up as they get ready for a Titanic spring battle that

1:06.6

could decide, of course, whether this war ends quickly or carries on slowly.

1:13.6

Yep, that sounds like a real game changer, doesn't it, Saul?

1:18.1

But the front, meanwhile, seems to be pretty much stalemated.

1:21.5

The news has been rather sparse from there.

1:26.6

So we're very lucky to have this week a report from the front lines around Backmood.

1:29.1

And it's given to us by Julius Strauss,

1:33.5

who's just been there with another friend of the podcast, Matt McKinnon, who we heard from a few weeks back. What he has to say is fascinating and revealing, and it has to be said not for the

1:39.9

faint-hearted. Yeah, maybe not one to listen to in the car if you have children with you.

1:45.2

But first of all, that new kit, it really is something, isn't it?

1:48.2

Yes, it certainly is. We've been expecting, indeed, hoping for this news for some time, Patrick,

1:53.2

and it didn't look like it was going to come. As late as last week, the meeting at Ramstein,

1:58.6

the NATO Defence Ministers meeting at Ramstein, a lot of pressure

2:02.1

put on Germany, particularly by Poland, to give the go ahead, not only to send their own tanks,

2:07.1

but certainly to let Poland donate its tanks to Ukraine. And the indications there were that the

2:12.6

Germans weren't going to buckle, but a lot of pressure obviously has been put on since then. And we're

2:16.7

now getting some strong figures. It seems that the final push yesterday came from Poland and asking

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