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254. US-Russia Talks: Is Trump Selling Out Ukraine?

Battleground

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🗓️ 13 February 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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This week on Battleground, Patrick and Saul analyse the historic turning point in the Russia-Ukraine war. Following a Trump-Putin phone call, talks have begun between Washington and Moscow. But what concessions is Ukraine expected to make? And what does this mean for European security? We discuss the implications and the reactions, from delight in Moscow to dismay among Ukraine's allies. If you have any thoughts or questions, you can send them to - [email protected] Producer: James Hodgson X: @PodBattleground Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This week marks a historical turning point in Russia's war with Ukraine.

0:52.7

As we speak, the diplomatic logjam is breaking up in front of our eyes.

0:57.4

President Trump has delivered on his pledge to bring the conflict to an end. Following an apparently

1:02.5

very cordial 19-minute phone call with Vladimir Putin, talks have begun between Washington and Moscow

1:08.4

to stop the war that Russia started almost exactly three

1:11.7

years ago. At the same time, we've received stark clarification of the concessions that America

1:17.9

expects Ukraine to agree to in order to achieve peace. They're spelled out in a tough statement

1:24.2

by new defense secretary Pete Hegeseth, which left Europe in no doubt that the

1:29.0

US is no longer to be depended on to underwrite security for the continent.

1:34.9

Reaction to these developments has been delight in Moscow and dismay among the Ukraine's friends,

1:40.5

with some comparing it to the British and French sellout of Czechoslovakia to Adolf Hitler in the Munich

1:46.0

agreement of 1938. Well, you'll hear our views later, but first, let's spell up what we know.

1:52.9

Well, let's start with Trump, Patrick. He announced via his truth social channel that he held a 90-minute

1:58.3

phone call with his Russian counterpart on Wednesday, the first

2:01.6

confirmed contact between the pair since Trump returned to the White House. I just had a lengthy

2:07.1

and highly productive phone call with President Vladimir Putin of Russia, Trump wrote in the

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