The worst thing we have ever invented to do to our food in terms of health, the worst thing,

frying pan.

Frying pan is the dumbest invention because we wreck the molecules and then they wreck us.

Oils are vindictive.

You treat them with care, they take care of you.

You damage them, they damage you.

Welcome. You're on air with Ella where we share simple strategies and tips from people who are doing something better than we are.

Whether it's wellness or relationships to just living better and with more energy or changing your mindset to accomplish more in your own life and succeeding however you define it. This is where we share

the best of what we're learning from the experts and we're learning more every day. Live better. Start

now. Let's go. Hey, you're on air with Ella and I am your host, Ella. I am joined today by Udo Erasmus. Udo, your name may be familiar

to some. And I'm going to explain why momentarily, but first, could I hear in your own words,

who are you, sir? And what do you do? Who I am is of work in progress. When people ask me, who are you? I say, well,

I'm still trying to find out. If you find out before I do, let me know. But, you know, because we're all

works in progress and we're in progress until we're done. So that's not going to change just because

I turned 80 this year, right? Yeah, I like to say my superpower is trial and error. So yes.

Yeah, that works.

That works.

And what I do is I came out of a war, so I started really very basic, not trusting anything,

because there wasn't much to trust in the war.

I was a kid.

I was two and a half years old when we were refugees,

fleeing from the communists out of Poland into Germany, and they were chasing us with tanks and trucks. And then the good guys, the allies, were shooting at us from planes. And we were

...