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Most Notorious! A True Crime History Podcast

299: Art Thief & IRA Militant Rose Dugdale w/ Anthony M. Amore - A True Crime History Podcast

Most Notorious! A True Crime History Podcast

Erik Rivenes

True Crime, History, Education

4.72.8K Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2023

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

My guest this week is bestselling author Anthony M. Amore, director of security and chief investigator at Boston's Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum. He shares the story of Rose Dugdale, an Oxford educated former debutante who rejected her wealthy and privileged life and joined the ranks of the Irish Republican Army in the early 1970s. Included in her notorious exploits was the attempted aerial bombing of a police station and the biggest art theft of her era.

Anthony Amore's book is called "The Woman Who Stole Vermeer: The True Story of Rose Dugdale and the Russborough House Art Heist." More the author and his work can be found at his website: http://www.anthonyamore.com/

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0:00.0

Welcome everyone to another episode of the most notorious

0:29.9

podcast. I'm Eric Rivenes. So glad that you are able to spend the next hour or so with me.

0:37.8

Thanks for listening as always. It is so great to have Anthony Amore with me. He is an art theft

0:45.5

expert investigator and security practitioner. He is the director of security and chief investigator

0:53.1

of the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum where he is charged with the ongoing efforts to recover

1:01.2

13 works of art stolen from the museum on March 18, 1990. He also worked for the Department of

1:10.0

Homeland Security and the Transportation Security Administration post 9-11. He has written three

1:18.0

books. They are stealing Rembrandts, the untold stories of notorious art heists, and the art of the

1:26.5

con, the most notorious fakes, frauds, and forgeries in the art world. His most recent, which he is here

1:35.7

to talk about today, is called the Woman Who Stole Vermeer, the true story of Rose Dougdale and the

1:44.4

Ruspero House Heist. Great to have you. Thanks so much for coming on. It's my pleasure. Thank you.

1:53.2

Yeah. So how did you come to work in the field of art security and recovery? And were you

2:00.3

interested in art before you began working for the museum? I was. I've always been interested in art

2:08.8

but ironically as a child and even as a adolescent or teenager, I never really went to art museums.

2:16.1

I grew up in Providence, Rhode Island where there's really only one at the Rhode Island School of

2:21.9

Design. So it's not something that was front of mind for me as a young man. It was always just sports.

2:30.0

And I went into law enforcement for my career after college. And ultimately, I think what led me

2:40.4

down this path is I, in 1996, I took a job with the Federal Aviation Administration. I used to

2:48.0

have a security division and I was a special agent for aviation security. And in that job,

2:54.3

the main functions were to evaluate security at airports and to do investigations.

3:01.6

So fast forward to 2004, 2005, the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum was looking for a person

3:10.4

who could do both. And it's a unique situation for a museum to need a security director and an

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