We have accomplished something that I was trying to go back in my

dims and messages as to when I first reached out to this gentleman and quite literally ignored me.

Only to fast forward and someone had DM me was like,

hey, this is his assistant, this is who you need to get in touch with.

And his name is Chuck, and Chuck was on this podcast months ago,

and I think we talked about it on the podcast but I had

messaged him and said hey I'd love for Mike to come on the show and apparently he

drafted a response to me that never got sent and fast forward through years and years and quite literally an email chain that I just pulled up that is 100 messages back and forth.

Mr. Mike Rowe is joining us today on the podcast.

See, this is what people don't understand or see about the podcast, the amount of work on the back end.

It's, yeah, a hundred emails, man. That's, that's a lot.

like when I first went into business the amount of emails that I would send back and

forth to like a potential client.

And the worst part is, is is very last minute.

I almost rescheduled this again.

He, Mike was supposed to be on a couple months ago

and he had to reschedule and then we nailed down this date and I had a

last-minute family event pop-up that I was like, hey Chuck, do you think we could push this up an hour?

He's like, let's just find another date. I'm like, forget it. I will.

Yeah. I can't like I cannot go into the 200 email zone of trying to get this scheduled.

So yeah, I mean, Mike's a, I've had the opportunity to chat with him

two years ago on an Instagram live.

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