This is Jonathan Peugeot. Welcome to the symbolic world. Hello, everyone. It is my great joy to be back with Aden Hart to discuss a wonderful image at his designings.

Those that have paid attention to my channel have seen many discussions with Aden.

His insight into iconography, also his own mastery of the skills makes them really one of

the modern masters of iconography, but also of understanding the role and symbolism and icons.

And he is working on a beautiful new image of the heavenly Jerusalem and its relationship

to creation. And in some ways, it's very akin to the images of everything that I've developed,

you know, with the mountain and the crucifixion or the flood. And it really goes to show how you

can show the same universal truth through different

prisms and so I really want to to explore this image with him and see how he came to develop

it the way he did and so Aiden thanks for thanks for talking to me about this here Jonathan and so

what is that what is the impetus let me show the image image first of all, and then we can talk about it.

Tell us a bit about what the impetus was for this image, what prompted it.

Yeah, thanks, Jonathan.

I got an email from an orthodox marine biologist.

He's a professor at Pointe Lovas University in the West Coast of America,

and being a marine biologist, he was very interested in somehow bringing together

evolutionary theory, not obviously in the sense of an atheistic one, but the sense of a gradual creation,

let's say, are with Christ, with Orthodox theology.

So it was quite an exciting project, as I'd studied biology at university myself, and

I wanted to bring together scientific discovery, an emphasis on Christ as the talos,

twice as the beginning and the middle and the end.

So it was a real challenge.

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