Yeah, I mean, I just I want to talk for a few minutes about my thoughts on spiritual

I was actually this started because I was kind of arguing in my head with the idea that of creating a space and God filling it like I

I really like that reading of that story

But then there's like the you know

God as the ground of being God as in him we live and move and have our being

So there's something like I again, I'd like the idea. I'm not gonna bring this up in the episode

I'm not gonna like argue or anything, but I was thinking like oh God spiritual practice is

Maybe like I think if it less as creating a space and more of

Like becoming more fully attentive to the space that you are in if that makes sense, okay

But I yeah, I'm not gonna not gonna I'm not mad

I'm not arguing that anything like that, but that was what kind of led to this. So I do want to talk to

Just just a little bit about

The way that I see spiritual practice in general. I don't think I don't think it's bad to talk about

Okay, different. All right, let's do that because people like I'm sure there are tons of people out there who

Already feel the same thing and they just need your voice to put words to it. Okay, great. Let's do that

This is the Baimel podcast with Marty Solomon. I'm his co-host sprint buildings today

I'm with Reed Dent to consider a different framework for spiritual practice and explore how Reed engages his own

Praxis Hey, Brent different from what Reed? Yeah, so different

Because you're the first you're the first spiritual

Practice episodes. I'm the very first one even before Marty

Well, I mean Marty had his back in episode 24 creating a space. Oh, okay, that was okay

I guess I guess technically they're the second different from that. Okay

...