Hey there, Steven Dubner.

Before we get to this week's episode, I'd like to tell you about a new spin-off project

from our friend, Chad Abemrod, who hosts Radio Lab.

If you've heard Radio Lab, you know that Chad has an interest in powerful stories and

sonic adventures, so you might want to check out his new podcast.

It's called Unarrased.

It's about conversion therapy, a treatment that's billed as a way of turning gay people

straight.

You may know it as the prey away the gay treatment.

It's been tried on more than 700,000 people.

Chad speaks with historians, psychologists, and theologians about the roots of the practice,

what it entails, and why it continues to attract proponents, even though the research literature

suggests it is not efficacious.

Whether it's desirable, of course, is a separate matter.

The first episode features Gerard Conley, who was sent for conversion therapy when he

was 19, he wrote a memoir about that experience called Boy Erased.

So please check out the new Unearased Podcast from Chad Abemrod, wherever you get your podcasts.

Now before we get on to this week's episode of Freakonomics Radio, a quick note about

our previous episode, number 355, which was called Where Does Creativity Come From.

In a section about the Chinese artist and activist Ai Wei Wei, we noted that Wei Wei

had been kidnapped and jailed in 2011 by the Chinese government.

We also noted that he had been, quote, charged with subversion of state power.

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