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357. Can an Industrial Giant Become a Tech Darling?

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🗓️ 8 November 2018

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

The Ford Motor Company is ditching its legacy sedans, doubling down on trucks, and trying to steer its stock price out of a long skid. But C.E.O. Jim Hackett has even bigger plans: to turn a century-old automaker into the nucleus of a “transportation operating system.” Is Hackett just whistling past the graveyard, or does he see what others can’t?

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0:00.0

Okay, so if I'm looking at your resume, I'm not seeing CEO of an auto firm.

0:07.0

Oh, God. You and me both.

0:14.5

And yet, he is.

0:17.0

I'm Jim Hackett, President and CEO of Ford Motor Company.

0:20.0

I have to ask, how would you get to our studio today?

0:23.0

A Lincoln navigator.

0:25.0

When's the last time you rode in a vehicle that wasn't made by the Ford Motor Company?

0:29.0

Probably a year before I was the CEO.

0:33.0

I actually had three other vehicles in my garage when I was on the board and I got rid of all of them.

0:39.0

Hackett became CEO of Ford in May 2017.

0:42.0

But we began with a big shake up at Ford.

0:45.0

Mark Fields is out and Jim Hackett is in.

0:48.0

Let's face it, Jim Hackett wasn't on anybody's radar when it came to automotive succession here at Ford.

0:54.0

One reason Jim Hackett wasn't on anyone's radar is that he is not what they call a car guy.

1:00.0

In Detroit, the world is pretty much divided into car guys and everybody else.

1:05.0

Hackett is a 63-year-old Ohio native who started out in sales and management at Proctor and Gamble.

1:11.0

Then worked for many years at the Michigan Furniture Company Steelcase, including 19 years as CEO.

1:17.0

And after that, he was interim athletic director at the University of Michigan, his alma mater,

1:22.0

where he hired the football coach Jim Harboh.

1:25.0

He did join the board of directors of Ford in 2013 while he was still at Steelcase.

1:31.0

But like we said, not an obvious candidate for CEO of one of America's big three automakers.

1:38.0

However, as it is often said, desperate times call for desperate measures.

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