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The Symbolic World

360 - John Vervaeke - The Cognitive Science of Ritual

The Symbolic World

Jonathan Pageau

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Education

4.8824 Ratings

🗓️ 26 September 2024

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

John Vervaeke and I discuss the cognitive science of ritual: the many different aspects of ritual and its importance even in the pursuit of reason, among sacred and secular spaces, to mark time and identity, to establish transformation, and more! John is truly making headway in giving us the concepts and vocabulary to understand symbolic and ritual participation across different participatory levels. Enjoy!

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Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming up
00:51 - Intro music
01:17 - Introduction to Cognitive Science
04:16 - Ritual and an advent of the sacred
06:18 - Meaningful ritual
08:23 - Why work against ritual?
14:07 - Replace religious with civic
15:47 - Hermeneutics of suspicion
18:24 - Progressive rituals
23:23 - Transformation
27:51 - Marking identity
36:17 - Ritual as space

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My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.

Transcript

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0:00.0

A proper part of being rational is the imperative to be more rational.

0:05.0

So rationality is an inherently aspirational entity, which means at the heart of rationality is aspiration and transformative experience, which requires ritual, because ritual is imaginable, serious way.

0:22.4

It's just funny because just with that, you completely undermine the entire, the entire project

0:28.4

of rationalism.

0:29.8

That's true.

0:30.5

I'd never thought about it, that because you want to be reasonable, reason becomes aspirational

0:36.0

and therefore has to be, you have to kind of imagine and project

0:39.6

yourself into that space before you enter into it because why would you desire it if you

0:44.7

couldn't imagine yourself in a future state where you have to move towards that future

0:50.3

state through imagination. This is Jonathan Peugeot.

1:03.0

Welcome to the symbolic world. Hello, everyone. I am back with John Vervaki.

1:20.2

You know, we just put out a video with himself and with Jordan Hall and myself having a discussion.

1:26.7

But today we are going to talk about John's upcoming class

1:31.1

on ritual and cognitive science.

1:33.8

I am extremely excited about this.

1:35.9

You know, I can't wait to see.

1:37.2

And it's actually fitting in some of the work

1:39.3

that John is doing all around for the university,

1:41.8

but then also other projects.

1:42.9

So John, yeah, I mean, let's start and tell us a little bit how this connects to your work in general.

1:50.0

Thanks, Jonathan. It's great to be here.

1:53.0

So in general, I've been doing a lot of work on the cognitive science of religion.

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