One of the craziest things that has happened as a result of the podcast is a few years ago I read Sam's L's autobiography

and then I made an episode on what I learned from reading Sam's L's autobiography and

Sam's L listened to the episode that is about his autobiography and asked to meet me as a result and in that

autobiography he talks about the impact that his partner Bob had on him and here's one of the stories from his autobiography. He says Bob was extremely

frugal and watched every single nickel in our business. Bob was constantly on the lookout

for anything that could be reused. He used to walk into somebody's office

and while talking would casually rummage

through the person's trash can.

He would take out stacks of papers that still

had paper clips on them, all while continuing his conversation as though nothing out of the ordinary was occurring.

Bob would then just pull those paper clips off, hand them back to the employee,

conclude the conversation, and walk out.

This is a trait that Bob and Sam shared.

In this book there's a quote that says in a trademark

Zell move he focused on aggressive internal cost controls.

I spend a ton of time reviewing all the lessons that you and I are learning from this

podcast so I read old highlights, notes, I search through transcripts, I even built an

AI assistant called Sage that helps me do this.

And so this week I was asking Sage, why do you think history's greatest

computers are obsessed with this?

Why are they all obsessed with controlling their costs, with watching their expenses?

I mean, look at this, look at the story

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