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🗓️ 22 April 2025
⏱️ 72 minutes
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0:00.0 | Akeo is a great example of this maxim that all of history's greatest founders studied history's greatest founders. |
0:05.2 | Phil Knight, the founder of Nike, studied Akeo, as did James Dyson, as did Steve Jobs, and Jeff Bezos. |
0:11.0 | And a few months ago, I was spending time with John Mackey, who was the founder of Whole Foods. |
0:14.8 | John also relentlessly studies the great founders that came before him. |
0:18.9 | And it was during one of our conversations that John |
0:21.0 | told me one of the craziest things that anyone has ever said about the podcast. He had listened to over |
0:26.4 | 100 episodes before we met and he told me that if founders existed when he was young, that Whole Foods |
0:31.6 | would still be an independent company. That since the podcast and all of history's great founders |
0:35.9 | constantly emphasized the importance |
0:37.6 | of controlling expenses, that he would have actually put |
0:39.9 | more of a priority on it, especially during good times, |
0:43.1 | during boom times. |
0:43.8 | I think it's very natural for a company and for human nature |
0:46.6 | to just not watch your costs as closely |
0:49.1 | because everything is going so well. |
0:50.7 | This is actually something that Andrew Carnegie noticed |
0:53.1 | over 130 years ago. |
0:55.3 | Carnegie would repeat this mantra over and over again. He said profits and prices are cyclical, |
0:59.8 | subject to any number of transient forces of the marketplace. Costs, however, could be strictly |
1:04.8 | controlled and any savings achieved in costs were permanent. This is something I was talking about |
1:10.0 | with my friend Eric, who's the co-founder and CEO of Ramp. Ramp is the presenting sponsor of this podcast. I've gotten to |
1:16.2 | know all the co-founders of Ramp and I spent a ton of time with them. They all listen to the |
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