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The Rest Is Classified

39. Iran vs Israel: Inside the Shadow War (Ep 1)

The Rest Is Classified

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4.6732 Ratings

🗓️ 20 April 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

How do Israeli and Iranian intelligence fight each other? Who's the man behind the Iranian nuclear programme? And what is the Mossad operation aimed at slowing it down? Listen as Gordon Corera and David McCloskey look into the shadow war between Iran and Israel and the Israeli attempts to slow down the Iranian nuclear programme. ------------------- Order a signed edition of David's latest book, The Seventh Floor, via this link. ------------------- Get our exclusive NordVPN deal here ➼ www.nordvpn.com/restisclassified It’s risk-free with Nord’s 30-day money-back guarantee! Email: [email protected] Twitter: @triclassified Assistant Producer: Becki Hills Producer: Callum Hill Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This episode is brought to you by 20th Century Studios, The Amateur. Now, Gordon, we have seen the

0:09.6

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0:14.6

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0:20.6

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0:22.3

who's killed in a terrorist attack. It looks like it's got everything that you want on a spy thriller.

0:27.2

It's got a bunch of wild action, and it stars Oscar winner Rami Malik and Oscar nominee,

0:33.3

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0:47.8

Terrorists murdered an eminent Iranian scientist today.

0:51.9

This cowardice with serious indications of an Israeli role shows

0:56.7

desperate warmongering. The Zionists seek to intensify and increase pressure on Iran to wage a

1:03.4

full-blown war. We will descend like lightning on the killers of this oppressive martyr

1:08.9

and we will make them regret their actions.

1:12.4

Well, welcome to the rest is classified. I'm Gordon Carrera. And I'm David McCloskey.

1:16.7

And those were the fighting words of an Iranian government official after the assassination on

1:23.1

the 27th of November 2020 of a man called Mosen Fakrizadei. He may not be a household name,

1:31.4

but he is an important man. And this week we're going to look at his story and what it tells us

1:35.4

about Iran's nuclear program and the efforts to stop it and my pronunciation, perhaps, of his name.

1:41.3

Go on, how do you rate it? Your Persian accent during the reading, I think,

1:45.2

left much to be desired. It was an Anglo Persian accent. It's an Anglo, an Anglo Persian accent.

1:51.9

That's right. And I have had some extended conversations with Persians about how you actually

1:57.1

pronounce Mosin Fakrizad is name. and I've been told my pronunciation is very poor.

2:03.3

It's hard, I think it's hard for us

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