406: Justin Folk—Am I Racist?

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

Society & Culture, History

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🗓️ 24 September 2024

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Director/Producer Justin Folk is best known for helming the 2022 hit documentary What is a Woman, starring Matt Walsh. Justin and Matt teamed up again for the follow-up, companion piece, Am I Racist? (now in theaters,) in which Matt goes on a diversity, equity, and inclusion journey and becomes a card-carrying DEI expert. Justin shares some behind-the-scenes moments from the film and discusses the state of anti-racism in America.

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0:00.0	Hey guys, Mike Rowe here. It's the way I heard it. This episode is called, Am I Racist? It's an honest
0:10.5	question. I think the answer is no. But hey, I could be wrong, Chuck. I could be wrong.
0:16.6	Well, you could be. I don't think you are. I mean, everybody could be. And I think there are people
0:22.0	who want to tell us that we are. How would you know, though? I mean, how would you know if another
0:27.5	person is racist? Wouldn't they have to tell you? Yeah, I am. Or could you look at them and
0:34.0	somehow decide? For me, I think it's more about actions than anything else. I mean,
0:38.9	words certainly could lend themselves to make you go, hey, you know what? I think that guy might be
0:43.2	a racist because of the choice words that he used, but really, you know, it's how people treat other
0:48.7	people. But even words, even words. I mean, have you ever told a racist joke? Have you ever laughed at a racist joke?
0:55.7	You know? Never, Mike. Never in my entire life. You've never done that, have you? I never have.
1:00.4	Well, then you for sure are deeply racist. My guest is Justin Fulk. He's produced a movie with his
1:07.5	friend Matt Walsh called Am I Racist? It is hitting theaters. Well, it's already in
1:13.3	theaters now, but when I interviewed, Justin, it was not in theaters yet, although you caught a
1:20.6	sneak peek, and I have seen the movie as well. There's no need to spend a lot of time talking
1:27.0	about it, because we get right into it
1:28.4	with the conversation. Spoiler alert, it's an important movie and I am well aware of the fact
1:35.7	that Chuck and I and Justin are three white middle-aged men about to have a conversation about
1:42.5	race in America. What could possibly go wrong, Charlie?
1:45.7	No, nothing at all. I mean, I love the fact that you're calling us middle-aged because that gives
1:50.3	me a shot at living to be 122. Well, look, I also called us racist. So there we go.
1:55.8	Wait a minute. No, you just said we were white dudes. I just asked, well, you know, it's clear that we're white. It's clear that we're dudes.
2:02.3	I think it's clear that we're not racist.
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