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The Genius Life

456: How Mastering Saying No Can Simplify and Improve Your Life | Sunita Sah, MD PhD

The Genius Life

Max Lugavere

Health & Fitness

4.74.7K Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2025

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Dr. Sunita Sah is a psychologist, behavioral scientist, professor at Cornell University, and author of Defy: The Science and Practice of Saying No, specializing in decision-making, social influence, and informed consent.

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0:00.0

What's going on, everybody? It's episode 466 of The Genius Life.

0:24.7

What's going on, everybody?

0:26.8

Welcome back to another episode of the show.

0:28.7

I'm your host, Max Lugavir.

0:34.7

And this is a show where we take a microscope to the habits, tools, and mindsets to help you thrive.

0:38.1

Today, we're exploring a skill that is crucial for protecting your time,

0:45.6

energy and mental health, the art of saying no. My guest is the brilliant Dr. Sunita Saa,

0:50.6

a world-renowned psychologist, behavioral scientist, and author of the groundbreaking new book,

0:56.2

Defy, the science and practice of saying no. Dr. Sa's research has transformed our understanding of how trust, authority, and social pressure impact decision-making,

1:01.5

and her work is a must-read for anyone looking to reclaim their autonomy. Dr. Saugh is a professor

1:07.7

at Cornell University and a senior research fellow at the University of Cambridge.

1:11.8

Her career began in medicine where she gained firsthand insight into the challenges of informed

1:15.9

consent and compliance, and she later transitioned into psychology and behavioral science

1:21.0

becoming a leading authority on how societal norms shape our behavior and how we can push back.

1:26.8

In this episode, we discuss the

1:28.5

deep-rooted social conditioning that makes saying no so difficult, often tied to childhood beliefs

1:33.4

that obedience equals goodness. She also shares powerful strategies from her new book Defy to help

1:39.4

you stand firm in high-pressure situations and create environments where dissent is accepted and even encouraged.

1:46.0

This episode is packed with insights and actionable tools to help you build confidence and

1:49.6

assert your boundaries.

1:51.5

Whether you're struggling to say no to a demanding boss, a social commitment, or even the

1:55.8

little pressures of daily life, this conversation is for you.

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