Hello and

Welcome to Real Crime Profile.

This is Jim Clemente, retired FBI Profiler, former New York City's

prosecutor and writer producer of criminal minds.

And Laura and Lisa aren't here this week, we have a very special special guest and that is

Bob Ruff from the Truth and Justice Podcast. Yes and Bob if you can everybody if you can remember all the way back to episode one,

that's when we first had Bob Ruff on Real Crime Prof profile.

So we're really happy to have him on again and it's for a special purpose and I got a call from Bob and he asked me for a favor and now Bob doesn't just ask for a favor you know

anytime willy-nilly whatever and so I said sure whatever it is and he asked me if we could do sort of a cross episode where we put his

premiere episode for season 15 on the real crime profile feed and it's also on the best case worst case feed.

So Bob you want to tell us a little bit about the case and why you wanted it out there on

real crime profile and best case worst case? Yeah I mean first of all I want to thank you

for doing it and as you said I don't I try not to ask for too many favors and

for anyone and we're 15 seasons in and I've never done this before but But when we put together the season premiere for season 15,

I was real proud of the work we did.

I'm actually put it together

with two of my high school students. I teach a broadcast

journalism class at our local high school. I attracted one of them to create all the

music who just graduated and then hired one who works as my head researcher and co-producer.

And so we put this episode together and it just, it's a message that I think needs to be heard and that's why what you guys are going to hear here on on on the feed is the full episode

Usually people do this for marketing purposes to try to get you to listen to part of it and come over to our fee.

That's not my purpose here. My purpose here is I want as many people as possible to hear this message.

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