Marshall here. Welcome back to the realignment.

Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the show. Today's episode before we take a Thanksgiving

day break is with Misha Shalem. He is the co-founder of the Abundance Network.

Misha has done really great work organizing the community of folks who

are interested in the topic of abundance and where this broader building and supply side

little business conversation moves from here. As a lot of folks will know, especially those who've

written in, there's a lot of interest in abundance, not only at this podcast level, but at a

every day, where do we go here perspective. So not only should folks reach out to Abundance

Network if they'd like to learn more, but they should also consider this is a space that is

very new. There are all sorts of abundance-related questions that haven't been answered yet.

And what I think makes Misha such a great quest is that he's someone who recognizes not only that fact, but then responds to the idea that the answer then is to broaden the tent and bring smart, ambitious, and interested folks into it to actually work on addressing those broader questions and answers.

So huge thank you to the foundation for American Innovation for supporting the work of this podcast.

And I will see you all after the Thanksgiving break.

Misha Chalem, welcome to The Realignment.

Hey, Marshall. Good to see you.

Really pumped to chat.

We've been talking not even off the record, just offline for the past two months.

So I'm pumped to actually do an episode with you.

So here's I'm going to step this up. We're obviously going to go through the definitions of the

abundance agenda, talk about the movement. But we're going to kind of do this episode with

the presumptions. A lot of folks have listened to Stephen my episodes where we sort of like

academically bloviate about abundance to the most niches and niches

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