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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

529. How Trump Will Save the School System | Corey DeAngelis

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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Education, Science, Society & Culture

4.634.5K Ratings

🗓️ 13 March 2025

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

Jordan Peterson sits down with bestselling author, commentator, and researcher, Dr. Corey DeAngelis. They shed light on where 50% of all state budgets are spent, the surprising stack of monopolies that strangleholds public education, the partisan lies surrounding school choice, and the truth every parent needs to know: school choice uplifts all students. Dr. Corey A. DeAngelis is a senior fellow at the American Culture Project and a visiting fellow at the American Institute for Economic Research. He has been labeled the “school choice evangelist” and called “the most effective school choice advocate since Milton Friedman.” He is a regular on Fox News and frequently appears in The Wall Street Journal. DeAngelis is also the executive director at Educational Freedom Institute, a senior fellow at Reason Foundation, an adjunct scholar at Cato Institute, a board member at Liberty Justice Center, and a senior advisor at Accuracy in Media. He holds a Ph.D. in education policy from the University of Arkansas. He is the national bestselling author of “The Parent Revolution: Rescuing Your Kids from the Radicals Ruining Our Schools.” This episode was filmed on February 28th, 2025. | Links | For Corey DeAngelis: On X https://x.com/DeAngelisCorey?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Read his most recent book “The Parent Revolution: Rescuing Your Kids from the Radicals Ruining Our Schools” https://amzn.to/4h3wAeK

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So there's a geographic monopoly and there's a state mandated monopoly because you have to send your kids to school.

0:06.8

And then there's a teacher certification monopoly. And that trickles down from the university level into the K-12 system.

0:13.2

The findings were less pregnancy, less crime and higher probability of graduating.

0:17.9

I'd also say on the teenage pregnancy thing, we found a reduction in crime,

0:21.0

but also a 38% reduction in paternity disputes, which could be caused by out of wedlock births or

0:27.1

teenage pregnancies. Another separate study in New York City was a charter school experiment.

0:31.9

They found that winning a lottery to go to a charter school in New York City decreased the

0:36.1

likelihood of crime for male students by 100%.

0:39.7

Republicans don't have a hope in hell of ever winning the culture war

0:43.2

if they allow faculties of education to maintain their hammerlock on teacher certification.

0:48.6

Everything else, as far as I'm concerned, it's blowing in the wind.

0:51.5

And if Democrats are smart, the way that we can get towards bipartisanship on school

0:56.2

choice is through...

0:57.5

Hello, everybody.

1:15.5

I'm speaking today to Dr. Corey D'Angeles.

1:19.4

He has a PhD in education policy, which under normal circumstances wouldn't necessarily be a good thing.

1:27.7

But he graduated from the Department of Educational Reform at the University of Arkansas,

1:33.4

and that's one of the rare schools, maybe singular schools,

1:37.4

that isn't terribly bloody Marxist in its fundamental orientation,

1:43.0

with a smattering of incompetence thrown in

1:45.6

there just for good measure. I've been following Dr. D'Angeles, Corey, on X for a good long time.

1:55.4

He's one-of-these-one-man wrecking balls, one-person wrecking balls, like Leila Mickleweight,

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