53: Swapping Feelings, Theories, and Hats with Adam Serwer

A More Civilized Age: A Star Wars Podcast

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🗓️ 7 December 2022

⏱️ 98 minutes

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Summary

As promised, the Autumn of Andor continues! Today, we've got the first of three guest-filled episodes coming to you this December. We are joined by Adam Serwer, author of The Cruelty Is the Point: The Past, Present, and Future of Trump's America, staff writer at The Atlantic, and life long Star Wars fan.

We share and contextualize our final feelings on Andor, explore the tensions and consonances between the Lucas, Filoni, and Gilroy visions of the franchise, and (if you are very patient) try to unravel whatever the hell was up with that Karn/Mosk hat swap.

NEXT TIME: TBD, but expect us to either pick up either our headphones or our character sheets.

Show Notes

"Star Wars Gets Political" by Adam Serwer

"Tony Gilroy, forgive me for this post" - BB-8 on Andor & the Hero's Journey

Brasso's Actor posting Killing in the Name

The Great Game, the Atlantic's World Cup Newsletter

Finally, an important communique from the inimitable poet, sociologist, and comic book author Eve Ewing, as hand delivered by Adam Serwer:

p.s. Eve, you are ABSOLUTELY welcome to come thru!

Transcript

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0:00.0	Let us return once more to a more civilized age, a Star Wars podcast on Rob Zackney, joined
0:13.7	by Alia Campora, Austin Walker, and Natalie Watson.
0:17.7	Tonight you help us cap off the autumn of Andor, we welcome Adam Cerwer, formerly the
0:23.3	Nerd Culture Correspondence for the American Prospect, and lately of the Atlantic and the
0:29.4	author of Girl T is the Point, the past present future of Trump's America, Adam, welcome
0:33.8	to the show.
0:34.8	Thank you for having me.
0:35.8	It's so awesome to be here.
0:36.8	So, before we get into a deeper discussion of the politics and allegorical meanings of
0:42.3	Star Wars and how Andor compilates all those, we need to get you on the record.
0:48.6	Luthan, Jedi or not a Jedi, Ciro Carn and Dead Mirror, Endgame or not.
0:57.4	Okay, okay, so I have, so I cannot, I will not, I have, on the Luthan is Luthan a Jedi
1:07.4	thing.
1:08.4	Here's the thing.
1:09.4	The show wants you to think he's a Jedi.
1:11.4	This is what I don't know if he is a Jedi.
1:13.4	At this point, yes.
1:14.4	At this point, yes.
1:15.4	Absolutely wants you to think so.
1:17.0	Do you have Chekhov's lightsaber hilt in the penultimate episode where two tubes is
1:24.9	like, hey, what's this?
1:26.9	You just do not, you do not ask the audience to focus on that object.
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