Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. This is Jim Clementi, retired API Profiler, former New York City

prosecutor and writer-producer of Criminal Minds and Bluebeard on

Audible. And with me today is?

Kathy Canning-Meller, retired FBI profiler and co-host of the Audible podcast FBI Profilers Criminal Archives.

That's right. We love doing that project together and everybody should listen to it. It's great. It's 15 of our greatest cases that we worked together when we were in the BAU. But today, Kathy, we're talking about a real, real, real bad case, aren't we?

Oh, yeah. And, you know, in this case, you know, I started following it a little bit, but our, you know,

legacy media didn't really cover a lot of it to the extent that other, like the BBC did.

And because of all a political kabuki theater that's going on in the United States,

that's consuming our legacy media, I think they're ignoring a lot of really important theater that's going on in the United States that's consuming our

legacy media. I think they're ignoring a lot of really important stuff that's happening

in other parts of the world. In this case captured my attention. I think because number one,

it's so horrific. And we worked many, many rape cases and domestic rape cases in our, in our

careers.

But this one just took it to the next level of being horrendous.

But also, I kind of, you know, I empathized with Giselle Pelicott, the victim here.

She's a 72-year-old woman, right?

She's a married to her husband, Dominic, who's a 72-year-old woman, right? She's married to her husband Dominic or Dominique, who's also 72, for 50 years, Jim.

It's unbelievable, Kathy.

It's unbelievable.

And how many of those years was he not only raping her, but inviting other men?

Not one or two, 50?

Yes, more than that.

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