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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

539. The Truth Behind Cows and Climate | Joel Salatin

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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Education, Science, Society & Culture

4.634.5K Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Regenerative farming pioneer Joel Salatin joins Dr. Jordan B. Peterson to challenge the myth that cows are bad for the planet. They explore how pasture-based farming restores ecosystems, the dangers of industrial agriculture, and why storytelling matters in the fight for the future of food. Joel Salatin, dubbed the "Lunatic Farmer," is a Christian libertarian environmentalist and one of the most outspoken voices in regenerative agriculture. Co-owner of Polyface Farm in Virginia, he supplies thousands with pasture-raised meats and teaches sustainable farming worldwide. With 16 books, such as “The Omnivore’s Dilemma," countless columns, and a wildly engaging speaking style, Salatin blends mischief, grit, and deep cultural insight to challenge how we think about food, freedom, and stewardship of the land. This episode was filmed on March, 10th, 2025. | Links | For Joel Salatin: On X https://x.com/joelsalatin?lang=en Polyface Farms website https://polyfacefarms.com/ Read “Homestead Tsunami: Good for Country, Critters, and Kids” https://a.co/d/5gg3vAV Read “You Can Farm: The Entrepreneur's Guide to Start & Succeed in a Farming Enterprise” https://a.co/d/fX8wSWF

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0:00.0

We hear a lot of noise about how cows are contributing to global warming,

0:04.7

which is an idea that's really struck me as rather specious right from the beginning.

0:08.5

If you want to talk atmospheric carbon, all it would take is all of our farmland to change 1% in organic matter.

0:16.5

We call this mob stocking herbivorous solar conversion, lignified carbon, sequestration,

0:21.9

fertilization.

0:22.9

We spend as much time marketing as we do the entire farm production.

0:27.7

Really what you are as a communicator and a network builder.

0:31.1

Well, why do I need to be fluent in my communication?

0:34.8

Why do I need to write?

0:36.0

Why do I need to learn to speak?

0:37.2

The people who communicate lead their professions.

0:40.7

Become a storyteller. Storytellers are what changed the world.

0:44.1

Yeah, right. So I've been very skeptical about these ideas stemming from the W.E.F. Globalist types that there's

1:07.8

something pathological about the agricultural sector

1:11.3

and the dawning concern as well

1:14.8

or the building concern about the notion that pasture animals like cattle,

1:21.3

for example, are bad for the planet.

1:22.8

That just seems to me to be absurd on the face of it.

1:26.2

I'd have to see a lot of data, so to speak, before I would

1:30.6

regard that as credible. And I'm also interested in meat-based diets, for example, because

1:39.5

they seem to be very health-promoting and highly nutritious. And so one of the things that I've wanted to do for a long time is to spend some time

1:48.8

investigating the landscape of so-called regenerative farming.

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