543 | Rep. Jake Auchincloss: How Democrats Lost the Battle of Ideas During the Realignment

The Realignment

Technology, News Commentary, National Security, Marshall Kosloff, International Relations, News, Public Policy, Economics, Politics, Saager Enjeti, U.s. Politics, Policy

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🗓️ 27 March 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Congressman Jake Auchincloss, Representative of Massachusetts's 4th congressional district, returns to The Realignment. Jake and Marshall discuss the abundance agenda and the need to merge populist energy with actual results, why a focus on enhancing state capacity and defending programs like Social Security is compatible with abundance, and the need to reform America's higher education system, the endgame in the war in Ukraine, and the need to rebuild America's foreign policy after the end of the post-war order.

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0:00.0	Marshall here. Welcome back to the realignment. Hey, everyone, welcome back to the show.
0:05.4	Today's episode features a return appearance by Massachusetts Congressman Jake Ockincloss,
0:10.7	following up on the episode we recorded back in January. Since then, he's gained a bit of a reputation
0:15.9	as a member of Congress, deeply interested in ideas, and has argued in multiple venues that the Democratic
0:22.2	Party needs to become the party of ideas again in response to the 2024 election. And as you
0:27.8	will discuss at the start of the episode, the overall realignment of American politics. What's
0:32.9	interesting for me is that I first started getting interested in this realignment idea back in
0:36.8	2014 when
0:37.8	Sam Tannenhouse wrote a story about the GOP, titled Can the GOP Become the Party of Ideas Again?
0:45.2	The story linked in the show notes profiled the reform conservative movement, and a lot of the
0:50.1	figures that really got me interested in the American right. So I just thought I would bring that up to start the episode and ask why it seems at least publicly. The perception is
0:58.6	the Democrats are out of ideas when once again a little over 10 years ago, people thought
1:02.4	Republicans were the ones after Mitt Romney's last for Barack Obama who were out of ideas
1:06.8	themselves. So given that this is an idea episode, we go to a lot of different places. We, of course,
1:11.7	cover the abundance agenda, health care, the cost disease concerns he has, higher education,
1:17.3	but we also expand it to our mutual shared interest in foreign policies, something we did not
1:21.0	cover in our first conversation. Huge thank you to the Foundation for American Innovation for
1:25.3	supporting the work of this podcast.
1:32.1	Representative Jake Ockin-Klaas, welcome back to The Realignment.
1:34.1	Thanks, Marshall.
1:40.8	I'm excited to chat with you again. We've got a lot to get into, so I'll cover a lot of your recent stuff in our intro.
1:45.8	But let's just start here. You did a great interview with Charlotte Alter of Time Magazine, where you talked about how Democrats have a problem of ideas. And I found that so
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