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545 | Richard D. Kahlenberg: Is Class-Based Affirmative Action the Future of Higher Education?

The Realignment

The Realignment

Technology, News Commentary, National Security, Marshall Kosloff, International Relations, News, Public Policy, Economics, Politics, Saager Enjeti, U.s. Politics, Policy

4.82.5K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Richard D. Kahlenberg, author of Class Matters: The Fight to Get Beyond Race Preferences, Reduce Inequality, and Build Real Diversity at America’s Colleges and Director of the American Identity Project at the Progressive Policy Institute, returns to The Realignment. Richard and Marshall discuss the future of higher education after the Supreme Court ended race-based affirmative action, why America's "river of power" runs through the Ivy League, tensions between class-based affirmative action and differing visions of "merit," higher education's response to the Trump administration's attacks, and the role of public, non-elite institutions in promoting economic opportunity.

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0:00.0

here, welcome back to the realignment. Hey, everyone, welcome back to the show. Today's episode

0:05.0

features a return appearance by Richard Callenberg, who has written a new book, Class Matters,

0:10.0

the Fight to Get Beyond Race Preferences, Reduce inequality, and Build Real Diversity at America's

0:14.6

Colleges. Richard previously came on The Realignment to discuss his last book, excluded

0:19.0

how snob zoning, nimbism, and class bias build the walls

0:22.6

we don't see. Now, the realignment spent a lot of time, especially in previous episodes,

0:26.7

talking about higher education, for looking at the most up for grabs and contentious post-2020

0:32.7

spaces at every single level from the cuts and research funding to the crackdown on protests to

0:38.6

debates around higher education's actual role in our lives. This is a completely open question.

0:43.6

And Richard's book, which is about how now a further of action is over based on race,

0:48.9

he wants us to have class and economic condition factored into one's admissions chances.

0:56.6

What's interesting about this is that Richard,

0:58.1

despite being a center-left liberal,

0:59.9

actually supported overturning the race-based

1:02.5

affirmative action policies of the past two years

1:05.2

that found him many friends on the right.

1:07.2

The thing I'm interested in discussing

1:08.7

is even though the polling supports the idea that people

1:11.4

are in favor of ending practices like legacy admissions and over preferences for athletes,

1:16.7

and instead allowing economic and class background to play a role admissions, I think we're going

1:21.6

to see a lot of tension, especially with the right over time. Because frankly, there is just

1:26.7

a lot of ways that the arguments

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