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authentic intimacy, so that we can keep helping people essentially make sense of God in their sexuality.

Well, in that vein, there can be a lot of obstacles

to embracing the goodness of sex. A few weeks ago, we shared a conversation I had with

Jess Sites, who talked about pain as an obstacle. And there's another obstacle that typically

is felt by a lot of Christian women women and it really comes down to having a

mindset or belief that at some level sex is not good or it's shameful. Some of this I think came out

of the purity culture but even beyond that I think many women are so attuned to just needing to say no

to sex before marriage that they don't know how to

start saying yes.

Well, we're here to talk about this today with my friend Francie Winslow, who has been on

her own journey of learning to say yes and bless what God blesses.

Francie has a podcast called Heaven in Your Home, and if you're going to be able to pick up,

she is really passionate about helping couples, especially women, allowing this to be their reality.

This is a conversation that addresses setting boundaries, exercising discernment,

and also not letting fear keep us from good things.

Let's dive into my conversation with Francie Winslow.

Francie, we go back a few years and have connected as friends in this ministry space. And I have to tell you, I was just talking about you to a group, I think just a few days ago. So, like, one of the

questions that I was being asked was, how do you make time for intimacy and pleasure and all

the good stuff on sex when you have kids? And so I'm like, well, let me tell you about this friend

of mine. And I talked

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