#574: Strong Cultures and State-Proof Cities with Tuur Demeester
TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast
Marty Bent
4.8 • 764 Ratings
🗓️ 23 January 2025
⏱️ 89 minutes
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Summary
Marty sits down with Tuur Demeester to discuss his visit to the South African city of Orania.
Tuur on Twitter: https://x.com/TuurDemeester
0:36 - Why Tuur went to Orania
8:02 - State-proof cities dealing with crime
14:29 - Orania's origins
19:24 - Fold & Bitkey
21:19 - Population growth and businesses
26:21 - South Africa is devolving
29:54 - Unchained
30:54 - Sentiment toward Orania
32:15 - Scaling Orania’s model
34:49 - Diversity and conflict
43:50 - Bitcoin fixes this, not MAGA
50:44 - Narrowing focus to weather the storm
1:00:54 - Cultural conflict makes family pairings difficult
1:05:45 - Meme coins
1:12:06 - Ethereum delenda est
1:17:28 - Bitcoin market and Bessent
1:23:10 - Tariffs and eliminating IRS
1:28:07 - Glass half full
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| 0:00.0 | You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free. |
| 0:10.0 | If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts. |
| 0:16.0 | So it's all acting like safe haven. |
| 0:18.0 | I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency, |
| 0:24.4 | Bitcoin wins. |
| 0:25.3 | In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor. |
| 0:29.2 | I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin. |
| 0:31.8 | If you're not paying attention, you probably should be. |
| 0:36.3 | I was just explaining it, sir. I don't mind some sweater weather. I was just explaining it, sir. |
| 0:37.7 | I don't mind some sweater weather. |
| 0:39.0 | I was just in Costa Rica for 15 days and it was 85 and sunny. |
| 0:43.3 | Great for your circadian rhythm. |
| 0:45.3 | Sun rises at 5.30 sets of 5.30 every single day. |
| 0:49.1 | Yeah. |
| 0:49.8 | It's great for scheduling. |
| 0:51.0 | Yeah. |
| 0:52.0 | You were traveling too. |
| 0:53.1 | That's why we're here. |
| 0:54.0 | Yes, I did. |
| 0:55.2 | I went to South Africa, yeah. |
| 0:57.1 | And you visited Orania. |
| 0:59.6 | Yes, I did. |
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