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🗓️ 4 April 2025
⏱️ 49 minutes
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0:00.0 | Last week, in the first episode of this two-part series, the Nobel Prize-winning economist Richard Thaler |
0:09.9 | described one of the most common afflictions of our time. If you make things harder, I call that sludge. |
0:18.1 | Kind of a fun word for stuff that's the opposite of fun. |
0:22.6 | We heard how insurance companies use sludge to ration health care, how subscription services |
0:29.8 | use sludge to avoid cancellations, and how governments are full of sludge because, well, |
0:36.6 | because sludge is an almost inevitable |
0:38.8 | byproduct of bureaucracy. Today, in part two, we look at ways to fight sludge through better |
0:46.3 | legislation, through the use of artificial intelligence, and maybe by hiring a personal |
0:54.0 | sludge coach. |
0:55.4 | I'm not available. |
0:57.6 | That's okay. |
0:58.8 | We are available, starting now. |
1:06.3 | This is Freakonomics Radio, the podcast that explores the hidden side of everything, with your host, Stephen Dubner. |
1:19.4 | It is a natural temptation to think that your problems are worse than other people's problems. |
1:34.7 | Also, to think that the problems of our generation are worse than previous generations. |
1:39.7 | But as it was written way back in Ecclesiastes, there is nothing new under the sun. |
1:47.0 | And so it is with sludge. |
1:49.0 | For many years, it went by another name, a prettier name, red tape. |
1:54.0 | Do you know the story of how red tape got its name? |
1:57.0 | Here, it's a cute story, I'll tell you. |
1:59.0 | It apparently dates back to 16th century Spain in King Charles V, |
2:03.5 | who had his most important legal documents bound in red ribbon, eye-catching and expensive ribbon, |
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