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That's the Restis Politics.com. Welcome to the Restis Politics leading and today we are going to be interviewing

Fiona Hill. Fiona Hill is a phenomenon in the United States and should be much

better known in Britain because she is the leading Russian expert, she's been critical to different administrations, including

quite controversially to the Trump administration, but also played a big part in her testimony

to exposing the horrors of the Trump administration and one of the reasons she's

interesting is that she's absolutely British and has a very very interesting British

backstory.

Well she's British but she's now an American citizen. I guess partly through she lives there now, she

married, raising a family there and as you say as advised successive presidents and

we interviewed her, she was in the States, I was in Switzerland, you were in Jordan, but I,

Fiona and I were driving down through France listening to her book and a lot of it is about class actually it's about how she

grew up in a very very poor family her dad was a minor who became a hospital

Porter her mother worked in the in the National Health Service and the title of the book is

there's nothing for you here which is sort of something her dad said to her about

you know you're gonna have to go and make your life somewhere else she went to university

studied Russian St Andrews University, became a policy advisors, worked for

all sorts of different institutions and institutions, and as you say became a critical figure

in terms of American foreign policy. So really, really nice to talk to her and here

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