8: LEADING: Bertie Ahern: The Troubles, peace, and the future of Ireland

Leading

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Politics, Government, News

4.6 • 2.7K Ratings

🗓️ 6 March 2023

⏱️ 53 minutes

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How did the violence of The Troubles come to an end on the island of Ireland? Bertie Ahern, former Irish Taoiseach who served from 1997 to 2008, speaks to Alastair about his father's time in the IRA, how Ireland has changed over the last three decades, and what it was liking working alongside Tony Blair, Bill Clinton, Martin McGuinness and Ian Paisley on the road the Belfast Good Friday Agreements. Instagram: @restispolitics Twitter: @RestIsPolitics TRIP Plus: Become a member of The Rest Is Politics Plus to support the podcast, receive a weekly newsletter, enjoy ad-free listening to both TRIP and Leading, join our Discord chatroom, and receive early access to live show tickets and Question Time episodes. Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up. Email: [email protected] Producers: Dom Johnson + Nicole Maslen Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:13.0	So welcome to another episode of the rest is politics dot com.
0:20.0	So welcome to another episode of the rest is politics leading and I'm absolutely
0:26.0	delighted to be in Dublin and I'm very happy to be sitting opposite somebody that I've
0:31.2	known for over a quarter of a century now and who was
0:35.3	fundamental to the delivery of the Belfast Good Friday Agreement coming up to the
0:40.7	25th anniversary. Welcome Bertie Hahn.
0:44.0	Thank you very much, Alistair.
0:45.0	The honor to be on your program.
0:47.0	I've got to tell you though, Bertie.
0:49.0	The first thing I'm going to tell our listeners is the fact that Bertie is not your real name. You're like a kind of Irish Boris Johnson.
0:57.2	Alexander Boris de Pfeffle. Now come on tell us our, tell our listeners what your real name is.
1:02.3	Well, I'm Bartolomew is the real name, but I think my grandfather was a Bartolomew and I think my great
1:12.0	grandfather was a Bartolomew, but none of them I
1:14.4	were ever known as Bartholomew. I don't think I was ever called that. It was Bertie from the time I was born, I think.
1:19.8	And tell us a little bit about your, about your parents.
1:23.3	Your parents were pretty political, weren't they?
1:24.8	Yeah, they were, you know, they weren't in the political party,
1:28.7	but my father was an active member of the IRA. The old IRA as I said back in the 20s.
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