#788: Naval Ravikant and Aaron Stupple — How to Raise a Sovereign Child, A Freedom-Maximizing Approach to Parenting

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🗓️ 16 January 2025

⏱️ 192 minutes

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Aaron Stupple (@astupple) is the author of The Sovereign Child: How a Forgotten Philosophy Can Liberate Kids and Their Parents. Naval Ravikant (@naval) is the co-founder of AngelList. He has invested in more than 100 companies, including many mega-successes, such as Twitter, Uber, Notion, Opendoor, Postmates, and Wish.

Stick around after the end of our three-person conversation to listen to an exclusive bonus segment that Naval and Aaron recorded with extra practical tips, as well as incremental, day-to-day experiments you can test and apply. It’s super tactical, so you won’t want to miss it. It begins at 02:17:01.

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0:00.0	Coming up in this episode.
0:02.6	Humans are unique that they are interested in stuff.
0:05.0	And it's actually a deep philosophical question of what is an interest?
0:08.4	How does a person know that something is interesting?
0:11.7	And that is the magic.
0:14.2	Elon wants to preserve consciousness as this light flickering in the universe.
0:17.9	I want to preserve interests.
0:20.2	A kid that's interested in something,
0:22.7	that is absolutely precious. And I want to cultivate that. I want to pour fuel on that fire
0:30.1	and anything to preserve that. And so that's where the adversary comes in. You know, call what you
0:35.7	want. I don't want to step on that or squash that.
0:37.6	I want my kid to see me as a gateway to interests.
0:41.8	As someone who just like can make things more interesting, anything that I'm interested,
0:46.3	they add to it.
0:47.7	So if I'm interested in video games, great.
0:49.5	My daughter is interested in YouTube.
0:50.9	And now she's, you know, filming and trying to make YouTube videos and
0:54.2	she's interested. And then she's got to figure out how the camera works. And then, like, all this
0:58.3	stuff is there. And so I want to get her like, okay, let me get you a camera. Let me get you
1:01.2	something to set it up. Let me get you some, you know, a storyboard is? That's what I mean. I think taking children seriously could be how do you preserve and augment your kids' interests
1:16.1	and how are you always an enabler and a supporter and a guide and never someone who's
1:22.1	just pouring cold water?
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