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Hi this is Hugh here from the imperfect podcast where podcast where we chat to well known people whose lives seem perfect from the outside

but through our discussions they share the vulnerabilities and imperfections that make them who they are.

We chat to people like Gary Barlow, Elizabeth Day and my cricketing hero, Pat Cummins.

I reckon the hardest time of my life easily. I remember that for those two weeks like I don't want to be going

and play in front of millions of people and everything gets picked

apart like I just want to be the kid who's sitting there with mom and dad.

Search the imperfects podcast on the app you are currently listening on. And the Boom we're on yes and today's guess we've got Anthony Russell how are you brother

I'm cool you know yeah it's really good to have you

on me thank you very much X factor finalist yeah yeah three times you had a

crack at it three times yeah so you've made a lot of headlines over the last couple of years but we've got right back to the start where you grew up and how you get involved in the life you're involved in now with the singing and stuff?

Well, it all started. I was born in Liverpool Women's, that was in

L. 8 and that was in 1989 and by the time I was raised in bootle and by the time I was six and seven I was singing in booze.

Like to get into singing I got into singing by listening to Oasis

and talk about an anger. Yeah that was the first tune I heard lad and like

bullies was still about know what I mean and I said to me ma I want that

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