Hello, boys and girls, ladies and germs. This is Tim Ferriss. Welcome to another episode of the Tim Ferriss show.

I would say that it is my hope with conversations like this to reintroduce perhaps a degree of wonder and questioning and awareness in my listeners that enriches their lives. Because the how-to stuff,

the tactical practical, sort of toaster instruction type, do this, do that is helpful. But

sometimes the what-to-do question takes precedent over everything else, and you can end up

operating as something like an ant in an ant colony.

And I, with these philosophical conversations, hope to open people to different perspectives

and ways of looking at their own lives

and the world around them. And my guest today is Philip Goff. Philip is a professor of philosophy

at Durham University. His main research focuses consciousness, big topic, but he's interested in many

questions about the nature of reality. We cover a lot of ground in this conversation.

He is best known for defending panpsychism, the view that consciousness is a fundamental and

ubiquitous feature of the physical world. 15 years ago, panpsychism was kind of a joke.

It was laughed at if it was thought of at all. Goff has led a movement that has made panpsychism

a mainstream position, taught to undergraduates,

and widely discussed in academic journals. He is the author of Galileo's Error, Foundations for

a New Science of Consciousness, and Why, the Purpose of the Universe. He's published many, many,

many, 50 or so academic articles, and has written extensively for newspapers and magazines,

including Scientific American, the Wall Street Journal, The Guardian, and many others.

You can find him on Twitter, that is X, at Philip underscore Goff.

That's P-H-I-L-I-P-U-F, and you can find all things, Philip, at PhilipGilosophy.com. We're going to get right into the

conversation, but first, just a few words from the people who make this podcast possible.

As many of you know, for the last few years, I've been sleeping on a midnight lux mattress from

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