Why do men have a bad reputation with emotions, do you think? Oh, man. I mean, I think that we,

I think that generally we feel emotions pretty intensely. And so when our emotions let loose,

sometimes it's, it cannot be pretty. It can be loud. It can be big. It can be intense.

And so I think sometimes men have a bad rap because of that.

I think that there's been a few generations of men that have been told not to feel that their best emotional tool is suppression, is repression is just like stuff it down,

pour some whiskey over top, you know,

light some weed up and just keep soldiering on, right? Stiff upper lip, as I think they say in

your country. And so I think we've gone through a few generations of men who used avoidance

as their main tool with emotions. And because of that, cut themselves off from

some pretty important data and information. And so a lot of men have just, you know,

older generations haven't been able to speak the language of emotions of what they're

feeling, of what they're going through. But I think having worked with men for over a decade, you know, tens of thousands

of men from around the world, men feel very deeply. I think it's not that men don't feel. I think

it's that men feel very deeply. And we've in some cultures created a vacuum of being able to

teach men what to do with their emotions,

how to actually traverse through their emotions. So I think those are parts of it. I'm curious

what your thought is on that, though, as well, because even you talk to a lot of people in this

space. Yeah, I think you're right. We don't exactly have fantastic emotional role models as men. And

you mean Homer Simpson and Peter Griffin are the like the role models of emotional acuity.

Who's that who's the guy that used to be like, ah, and then would hit his wife, like pretend to hit his wife on like some sitcom? Who is that American guy? I'm not from this country. I don't fuck. I don't, I think that's, I think that's

before my time. I'm not sure. Very well, maybe. Yeah, you know, it was the 50s. It was a different time.

The hands were softer. Um, so yeah, I think the role model of the kind of bumbling, unfeeling,

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