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the holidays leading with me Alistair Campbell and with me Rory Stewart and we have our second

American interviewee although technically our third because Fiona Hill though born British

became an American citizen and then Michael Johnson an athlete and now another athlete.

Somebody who was once third in a mile race in New York as a young student but went on to bigger

and better things as a very well-known well-known globally in politics. Longest serving independent

in the history of Congress being a mayor, a congressman, a senator, two time runner up in the race

for the democratic nomination to be president and I guess you could say Rory the leader of a global

progressive movement I think he probably sees himself in that way. Very much and it's of course

you're talking about Bernie Sanders indeed I am yeah we're here to feel the burn and no so he's

an extraordinary figure as me and I suppose in Britain we often see him through the lens of Jeremy

Corbyn who again I guess was somebody who was seen as an idealist out on the socialist left

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