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The Matt Walker Podcast

#90 - Sleep as Fuel for Athletes with Dr. Cheri Mah

The Matt Walker Podcast

Dr. Matt Walker

Medicine, Science, Social Sciences, Health & Fitness

4.8995 Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Join Matt and renowned sleep scientist Dr. Cheri Mah today as they delve into the crucial connection between sleep and athletic performance. Dr. Mah's groundbreaking research at Stanford, including her famous basketball player sleep extension study (which revealed a 9% improvement in free throws and three-pointers!), demonstrates how prioritizing sleep can significantly enhance athletic abilities. In this fascinating episode, she discusses with Matt how sleep impacts not only physical recover...

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0:00.0

Hi there, it's Matt here and welcome back to the show. Today I am honored to have Dr. Sherry Mar with us.

0:12.4

Dr. Ma is one of the most remarkable, not to mention renowned sleep scientists and she is a true pioneer in the field of sleep,

0:24.5

sports and athletic performance. It is, trust me, no exaggeration that Dr. Mars research at

0:32.5

Stanford University on sleep, sleep extension, sleep restriction, sleep deprivation, circadian alignment. It has

0:40.6

transformed our understanding of how sleep can enhance or impair athletic ability. She's a highly

0:49.5

sought-after advisor to some of the world's most remarkable sporting superstars and professional teams.

0:58.9

I could go on and on. It is my absolute privilege to welcome her onto the show today.

1:06.0

Dr. Marr, thank you for doing this. And hello and welcome to the show.

1:10.4

Great to be here. I'm so thrilled to get to have this conversation with you.

1:15.3

It's going to be fantastic, folks. Strap yourselves in. We are going to dive straight in. But before we get into some of the details of all of the science, perhaps tell me a little bit about your background and for the listeners.

1:30.0

Tell us what exactly inspired you firstly to become a sleep researcher and clinician.

1:37.8

And also then, how did you start to focus on sleep and athletic performance?

1:44.0

Sure. So my story, I will say, dates back over

1:48.0

20 years when I first got into the sleep field. I am from the Bay Area originally and I went to

1:55.1

Stanford for undergraduate. And I had the unique privilege to meet Dr. Dement, considered the father of modern sleep medicine. And I had the unique privilege to meet Dr. DeMint, considered the father of modern

2:03.1

sleep medicine. And he was a fascinating professor who really intrigued me in the field of sleep science.

2:14.5

He started the field, as we know, in his early work in the 1950s, 1960s, and the field has

2:21.5

grown out of that early work. And as a 17-year-old, I was able to be a part of what would then be

2:29.2

my very first sleep study. And we were looking at how to pay back accumulated sleep debt in Stanford undergraduate

2:36.8

students, looking at the impact on mood and reaction time, and really looking at not just over the

2:45.5

course of one night, two nights of extended sleep opportunities, but over multiple weeks. And what happened

2:53.9

was there was a couple of Stanford varsity swimmers in that study. They came into the lab one

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