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The Counsel of Trent

#966 - The Weirdest Argument For God's Existence

The Counsel of Trent

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Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 25 November 2024

⏱️ 17 minutes

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In this episode, Trent explains a strange argument for God that may be the key to proving God exists.

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0:00.0

So what makes an argument for God really weird? Well, most normal arguments for God's existence

0:04.2

start from something we observe in the world that points to God. But one argument starts not with

0:09.7

what we observe, but with the very idea of God itself. This argument, as my friend Jimmy Aiken

0:14.7

once put it, claims that, quote, instead of being too good to be true, God turns out to be too

0:20.4

good not to be true.

0:22.4

The weirdest argument for God's existence is the one that says God has to exist because, well, God.

0:28.1

But this is one of those arguments that fits perfectly in the meme where the geniuses and the low IQ people

0:33.5

both agree with the profound truth that God must exist by definition, while everyone else

0:39.0

thinks that's a crazy idea. So in today's episode, I'm going to give an overview of the

0:43.3

ontological argument for God's existence and show how it can be a helpful argument for that

0:48.3

case. So let's get started. First, by ontological, we are talking about ontology, the study of being. The ontological argument

0:56.1

claims that God just is the kind of being, or God just is being, so God must exist. Therefore,

1:03.0

God does exist. The argument's origin can be found in the writings of the 11th century saint

1:08.1

and doctor of the church, Anselm of Canterbury. Onselm started with the

1:12.1

idea that God is, quote, that which nothing greater can be conceived. If you think God is just a

1:18.2

powerful creator of the universe who is made by some other God, then what you are thinking of

1:23.5

is not God, because there is something greater than what you're thinking of, the God that made

1:28.8

this God. So now that we understand God is that which nothing greater can be thought of or conceived,

1:35.4

what follows from this definition? Well, God must have all power, all knowledge, and all forms of

1:41.9

goodness to be that which nothing greater can be conceived.

1:44.8

Saint-Anselm then goes on to say the following,

1:47.0

if that than which nothing greater can be conceived exists in the understanding alone,

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