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🗓️ 18 April 2021
⏱️ 63 minutes
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0:00.0 | Hey, Polly Tears, I hope you're well. In this week's episode, I speak to Rutger Braggman. |
0:05.1 | He is a historian and author, and I'm sure if you listen to this podcast regularly, |
0:09.3 | you will have heard me mention his book Utopia for Realist multiple times. So it really was very |
0:14.0 | exciting to be at the chance to pick his brain. And I might pretty much anyone else have interviewed. |
0:18.8 | Rutger said he was pretty happy with everything he'd learned in school, but that's mostly because |
0:23.6 | he doesn't really think our schools are fit for purpose as they are, and that's something that we |
0:27.4 | discuss in this episode. He did send me over his three things, which were French, German, |
0:33.1 | bits of mindfulness, and most importantly, more freedom to follow his own curiosity and rely on |
0:37.9 | a trans-Zeg motivation. So we discuss that quite a lot, as well as the importance of diverse |
0:43.0 | communities and why humans are actually really kind, deep down. If you're interested in that kind |
0:48.6 | of thing, his latest book, Humankind, actually covers a lot of what we talk about, obviously, |
0:51.9 | in much more depth. So if you're looking to learn more, then I would really recommend that. Yeah, |
0:57.6 | I really enjoyed this episode, so I hope that you enjoy listening to it as well. Bye! |
1:06.8 | Hello and welcome to Ableton. Today I'm joined by Rutger Breckman. |
1:12.0 | Hey there, where'd you be with you? Thank you so much for joining me. I'm very excited to |
1:15.9 | be talking to you. I don't know, you probably might not have listened to my podcast, but I read |
1:20.3 | your book Utopia for Realists right at the beginning of this year. And I think every episode since then |
1:26.5 | I've brought it up. So when I emailed you. Really? Really? I really had such a big impact on me, |
1:32.7 | so when I emailed you and you emailed me back in like 20 minutes, I'm like, sure, I'd love to do |
1:36.1 | this. Oh, I've never been so excited. So thank you so much. So it's not out of date yet. You |
1:41.4 | feel it's still relevant because it's actually quite an old book. You know, I wrote it in |
1:46.1 | 2014 in Dutch and it was translated in English in 2017, but I'm very excited to hear that it's |
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