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The Unspeakable Podcast

A Feminist In Genderland: Legendary feminist Julie Bindel on the sex trade, surrogacy, and her new podcast about gender madness

The Unspeakable Podcast

Meghan Daum

Society & Culture

4.8784 Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2024

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

This week, journalist and legendary feminist activist Julie Bindel talks about her new podcast series, Julie in Genderland, which explores the complexities surrounding gender identity, particularly from the perspective of parents of children who’ve become caught up in gender ideology. Julie discusses the role of social services and educators in shaping children's understanding of gender, the intersection of class and gender issues, and the parallels with social justice movements around the sex trade and surrogacy. She also reflects on her reporting of grooming gangs in the UK, linking it to broader issues of misogyny and systemic failures in protecting vulnerable girls.

GUEST BIO

Julie Bindel is a British journalist, broadcaster, author and a feminist campaigner against male violence towards women and girls. Her latest book, Lesbians: Where Are We Now? will be published by Swift Press in Spring 2025 and her new podcast, Julie In Genderland, premiered in September 2024.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

They're closing brains down by imposing views upon them and even the teaching style that you see.

0:10.0

It's shocking.

0:12.0

I mean, and I've heard this again from loads of parents and some young people.

0:16.0

They're being told what to think.

0:19.0

They're being told what is correct. They're being told what is correct.

0:23.6

They're not even being told what to think.

0:25.8

They're being told not to think, just to repeat mantras.

0:30.9

Welcome to the unspeakable podcast.

0:33.1

I'm your host, Megan Down.

0:34.6

My guest is journalist and legendary feminist activist Julie Bindle.

0:40.7

Julie has been outspoken for decades about violence against women, and she has in recent years

0:46.9

been a particularly sharp and intelligent voice in the conversation around the new gender

0:52.7

movement and medicalized transition in young people.

0:56.6

She has a new podcast about it, Julie in Genderland, a 10-part series that focuses on the stories

1:03.0

of well-meaning parents and the obstacles and confusion they face while advocating for their kids.

1:09.4

We talk about that podcast at length in this conversation.

1:13.0

We also talk about a separate but not entirely unrelated issue,

1:18.4

which is the story of the so-called grooming gangs in the UK that emerged over the last several decades.

1:25.2

These were cases where extremely vulnerable young girls and women,

1:29.3

mostly in the north of England,

1:31.3

were sex trafficked in shockingly large numbers.

1:34.3

Julie was the first to report on that story back in the early 2000s,

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