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The Unspeakable Podcast

How To Win An Argument With Yourself: Stephanie Lepp’s Latest Integration

The Unspeakable Podcast

Meghan Daum

Society & Culture

4.8784 Ratings

🗓️ 14 October 2024

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Stephanie Lepp is a video artist and producer whose work focuses on bringing together different viewpoints to arrive at a perspective that goes beyond “common ground” and emerges as a true integration, or synthesis. She was on the podcast in July 2022 to talk about a project called Deep Reckonings. In it, she considered the cases of public figures who’d responded to personal controversy in less-than-ideal ways and reimagined responses that would have conveyed genuine learning.

Now she’s back with a new video series, Faces of X, which illustrates an argument using a single performer to act out the three parts of the thesis, antithesis, synthesis schematic. Those performers include Buck Angel, Liv Boeree, Magatte Wade, and herself.

In this conversation, I talk with Stephanie about why it’s so hard to check your confirmation bias (even — and maybe even especially — when you pride yourself on being able to do so), the difference between synthesis and “both sidesism,” and why she’s optimistic about the future of public discourse about complicated issues.

GUEST BIO

Stephanie Lepp is the founder of Synthesis Media, a production studio devoted to integrating perspectives into a bigger picture. In 2022, she debuted Reckonings, a narrative podcast that explores how we change our hearts and minds, and Deep Reckonings, a series of explicitly-marked deepfake videos that imagine morally courageous versions of our public figures. Her new project is Faces of X.

Watch Deep Reckonings.

Watch Faces of X.

Listen to Stephanie Lepp’s previous interview on The Unspeakable.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

We've learned how to do equal opportunity criticism.

0:05.9

It's like, congratulations.

0:07.1

We know how to criticize the right and the left.

0:08.7

Good job.

0:09.5

But where's the equal opportunity praise?

0:12.2

You know, where's the like actually just taking the insights from wherever they come from

0:16.5

and weaving them together into a bigger picture?

0:20.2

That's what I feel like is sometimes lacking in the heterodox space.

0:27.8

Welcome to the unspeakable podcast.

0:30.1

I'm your host, Megan Down.

0:32.1

My guest is Stephanie Lepp.

0:34.6

Stephanie is one of the most interesting, I would say one of the most difficult to

0:40.1

categorize people working in these so-called heterodox space these days. And I say so-called

0:46.4

heterodox because she has some complicated thoughts about that term. As do I. Stephanie is an artist

0:52.9

and a producer, mostly a video producer, who was on the podcast back in July

0:58.0

2022 to talk about a project called Deep Reckonings. In that project, she considered people who had been

1:06.1

embroiled in scandal or just made serious mistakes and then not responded ideally or at all,

1:13.6

and imagined responses that would have conveyed genuine learning.

1:17.8

Now she is back with a new video series called Faces of X,

1:22.0

and that name came before Twitter became X,

1:24.6

which illustrates how an argument using a single performer can be put forth

1:30.7

by having that performer act out three different parts of the thesis, antithesis, synthesis,

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