Hi, and

welcome to Everything Is Fine, the Podcast for Women Over 40.

We are your hosts.

I'm Pee France.

And I'm Jen Romulini. And Jen, this might be slightly old news by the time this comes out, but I think I speak for the entire

everything is fine community when I express my condolences on the death of the marriage of Ben and Chen.

You know?

Okay, I didn't even know what was happening.

I was having drinks with a friend yesterday and my inbox blew up. I started getting, I mean just

text like, oh my God, are you okay? Like funny, ha ha. But like also like people, like my friend Sam sent me, it's over and I was like,

what, what's over? Like I, I was, I had no idea and then I looked up and I was like, oh,

I mean, the thing is like I said

this on on Instagram today I knew the marriage I knew he was done right I think he was

done from the time that movie came out like I didn't think he was going back to that marriage I think he very

Considerately let her drive the narrative because I think he was concerned He knew that she was going to be very concerned

that she was going to consider this a real humiliation and so he wanted her she

filed for divorce she spent the summer in the Hamptons like with all these

photo ops you know single and fabulous like I look sexy she had that big

Bridgerton birthday party she really like redefined herself as a single person over the summer

though I think their their marriage has been over since the spring and I think

that he was just like I don't give a shit like let her have this right and then let her file

let it be her her story to tell and I don't think that you know all reports are like he stopped trying like yeah he was done and

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