A Nuanced Look at ‘Cancel Culture’ with Alyssa Rosenberg

Battleground with Amanda Litman and Faiz Shakir

The Recount

Government, News, Politics

4.8 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 24 June 2021

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

What are the costs and benefits of living in a society where people can be cancelled for their speech? Are "cancelled" people, like Gina Carano, irredeemable? Amanda and Faiz use “cancel culture” as a jumping off point for what ends up being a wide-ranging, deeply analytical conversation with Washington Post columnist Alyssa Rosenberg. They cover the performative nature of online discourse; the primacy of persuasion; whether or not (and how) to engage with people spewing hate online; and ultimately, the idea that we may come to understand each other better by working through our differences.

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0:00.0	I'm Fashikir.
0:02.0	I'm Amanda Littman.
0:04.0	And this is Battleground, a podcast from the recount and I Heart Radio.
0:14.8	This week we're talking to Alyssa Rosenberg, a columnist for the Washington Post who focuses
0:19.1	primarily on the intersection of culture and politics.
0:22.8	And I should add that Alyssa is a friend of mine.
0:24.7	I hired her roughly a decade ago to cover culture for Think Progress, a defunct blog of
0:31.5	the Center for American Progress that I used to edit.
0:34.0	But first, Amanda, what's been on your mind this week?
0:36.7	So Fash, I have been thinking nonstop about a story that NBC News ran last week in which
0:42.8	they dug into the network of state and local based groups that are pushing the fight against
0:48.2	critical race theory in school boards.
0:50.1	And what NBC News found is that there are more than 135 groups from this network called
0:56.8	no left turn that are basically astroturfing protests.
1:01.0	They are running recall campaigns against school board members.
1:04.0	They are trying to conflate critical race theory, which is a legal concept around the intersection
1:10.0	of race and the law and policies with teaching an honest reckoning of racism in American history.
1:16.4	I think this is so important to notice, and I've been thinking about this NBC News
1:20.8	story all week, because much like the voter suppression, none of this shit is an accident.
1:26.0	It is paid for and funded by Republican mega donors in order to cultivate a culture war,
1:31.4	especially in this case on the local level and around education, because they understand
1:36.1	intimately that when you get into local fights about people's kids, it becomes personal.
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