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Masters of Scale

Adobe CEO Shantanu Narayen on leveraging AI

Masters of Scale

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Entrepreneurship, Business, Management, Reid Hoffman, Mindset, Diversity & Inclusion, Jeff Berman, Bob Safian, Startups

4.64.4K Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Shantanu Narayen has weathered plenty of storms for Adobe, the iconic software company that earned more than $21 billion in revenue last year. The veteran tech leader talks with host Reid Hoffman about transforming Adobe’s creative tools like Photoshop to a cloud-based subscription, how that unlocked ways to innovate faster, and why those lessons are serving the company well in the new age of AI.

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0:00.0

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0:06.7

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0:11.6

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0:18.5

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0:26.0

so your team can focus on what matters, scaling your business.

0:30.9

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0:35.9

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0:40.6

Hey, listeners, it's Jeff Berman. We have some very exciting news. This October 7th through 9th,

0:46.3

the Masters of Scale Summit is returning to the iconic Presidio Theater in San Francisco for three

0:51.8

days of big, bold ideas. We're gathering the most visionary founders,

0:57.9

world-changing executives, and impactful investors to build a brighter future together.

1:04.0

The lineup is unmatched. The audience is handpicked for impact, and the energy is really anything but business as usual.

1:13.8

Applications are officially open right now, and I wouldn't want you to miss your chance.

1:17.9

So please apply now at masters of scale.com slash apply 25.

1:24.7

I wish I could look at you and say, we knew all of that up front.

1:29.7

We didn't.

1:31.7

AI models are upending the market for tools that help people make things like illustrations

1:37.0

and animations.

1:38.7

But this isn't the first time Adobe CEO, Shantanune Orion, has had to lead the iconic software company through a moment of monumental change.

1:48.2

He spearheaded Adobe's transition to a cloud-based subscription model more than a decade ago.

1:55.4

There was a lot of opposition from existing customers as well, because they were a little skeptical and or cynical

2:03.6

about why Adobe was doing it. But there was a lot of excitement. This transformation wasn't just

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