Amanda Ripley on How to Survive Disaster
The Good Fight
Yascha Mounk
4.6 • 907 Ratings
🗓️ 28 September 2024
⏱️ 51 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | When I was at Time magazine, I sort of by chance kept covering different disasters, |
| 0:05.0 | terrorism and hurricanes and wildfires, and then I just became like the go-to |
| 0:09.9 | disaster beat reporter for some reason, which I don't recommend, but I noticed as I was doing that that, you know, we did a lot of stories about loss and grief and blame and accountability and those are all important stories, but there was this one kind of story that we never |
| 0:25.8 | seemed to do and nor did anyone else which is what literally can we learn from the survivors |
| 0:31.8 | aside from you know their sadness and anger and grief. What did it feel like physically, |
| 0:37.7 | mentally, even socially, to be in this ordeal? Because every single survivor I've ever met and I have met a lot of them |
| 0:46.0 | had things that they wish they had known, things that surprised them about the experience, good and bad, |
| 0:52.0 | and things that they want the rest of us to |
| 0:54.8 | know. And now the good fight with Yasha Monk. |
| 1:00.0 | My guest today is Amanda Ripley. |
| 1:06.5 | Amanda is a journalist and author who wrote the accent book High Conflict, |
| 1:10.7 | Why We Get Trapped and how we get out, |
| 1:13.2 | which she discussed on my podcast a number of years ago. |
| 1:18.2 | She is also reissuing her first book |
| 1:21.3 | called The Unthinkable, Who survives when disaster strikes and why right now. |
| 1:27.0 | It's a book that takes us all the way from 9-11 to the pandemic, and we had a really interesting conversation about what goes on in people's minds when they start to recognize that a disaster looms, how they decide to take action or why some of them fail to take any kind of action, |
| 1:46.8 | and who ultimately ends up surviving. |
| 1:48.6 | And more importantly, why it is that society confronts many more disasters, particularly many more natural |
| 1:54.7 | disasters today than in the past, but the number of people who die from those |
| 1:58.1 | disasters has actually gone down a lot. Is the reason for that technological progress or does it have something to do with the ways in which we do or don't help each other? |
| 2:10.0 | At the end of the conversation as part of this week's bonus content we also talk about |
| 2:15.8 | Amanda's last book on high conflict. I heard her on the podcast to talk about that in the past |
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