America’s Day of Chaos

Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

Institute for Government

News, Politics, Government

4.6 • 252 Ratings

🗓️ 8 January 2021

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

The insurrectionary riot in Washington DC has shocked the world. What does it tell us about the fragility of democracies who come up against leaders who reject the rules, fire up popular anger, and trash the institutions that hold up the system? Plus, with the Government still on the back foot over COVID, will the vaccine roll-out lead to some semblance of normality for Britain? And what might 2021 hold for the UK (because everyone’s predictions for 2020 were so accurate, weren’t they)? Paul Goodman, editor of Conservative Home, is our special guest. “Johnson has pulled off the trick of harnessing the popular anger that’s sweeping the world to a tried and tested political agenda.” – Paul Goodman “The Government seems to be continually taken by surprise by events that seem inevitable to others” – Jill Rutter “There are only two or three ministers who have real experience of running departments. And those who do, Boris Johnson has consigned to the backbenches.” – Paul Goodman “Boris Johnson’s approach comes down to who spoke to him last and how they spoke to him.” – Cath Haddon “Boris Johnson’s government very much had to mind its Ps and Qs with regard to Trump. But now Trump’s going they’ve got no reason to give him a fond farewell.” – Paul Goodman Presented by Bronwen Maddox with Cath Haddon and Tom Sasse. Audio production by Alex Rees See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello and a very warm welcome to Inside Briefing, the podcast from the Institute for Government.
0:15.1	I'm Bronwyn Maddox, wishing you all are happy or at least a happier new year.
0:19.9	But it hasn't started happily in lots of
0:22.0	ways. Not in the US, something we're going to discuss right at the top, or coming back to the UK,
0:27.3	or the Prime Minister, or teachers, or pupils, or parents, or in fact, pretty much everyone.
0:33.1	Day after the Prime Minister insisted that schools would stay open, they closed. A lot is resting
0:37.9	on the broad shoulders of Joe Wicks and a lot of brick bats are heading towards Gavin Williamson
0:42.9	Education Secretary, not for the first time. We're going to look at the vaccine rollout
0:47.4	and whether that's going to lead to some return of normality, what normal might mean anymore.
0:52.2	And though it's hard to look beyond the scenes on Capitol Hill
0:54.8	and the UK wrestling with vaccination,
0:57.3	we're going to take a step back, two metres plus at least,
1:00.4	to just take a quick look ahead to the coming year.
1:02.8	We've got two IFG senior fellows in the virtual studio
1:05.3	to make sense of a frenetic start to the year.
1:07.4	Jill Rutter. Hi, Jill.
1:09.4	Hi, happy new year.
1:12.6	And Kath Haddon, who leads our work on ministers and constitutional questions. Hi, Kath. Hi, Bronwyn. Happy New Year. And I'm delighted to
1:18.1	be joined today by someone who knows the mind of the Conservative Party better than anyone. Paul Goodman,
1:22.6	editor of Conservative Home, the grassroots website for the party. Hi, Paul. How are you? Hi, I'm fine, and
1:28.4	happy new year too. Thank you very much. Thank you for all those wishes from all of you. Let's start
1:33.4	with the US. Irresistible, really. A lot of us have stayed up all night watching agog and aghast at these
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