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Americano: 'I'm a Democrat who will give him a chance' - Lionel Shriver on Trump's inauguration

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🗓️ 21 January 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump has been sworn in as the 47th President of the United States. All the former leaders of the free world were there to watch Trump take the oath - again - but how was this inauguration different to the last? And what signs were there of how Trump intends to govern?

Guest hosting for Americano, The Spectator’s Kate Andrews speaks to Freddy Gray, who is on the ground in D.C., and Lionel Shriver about Trump’s speech lamenting the Biden administration, Biden’s last minute pardoning of his family, and why some Democrats could be willing to give Trump a chance this time round. 

Produced by Patrick Gibbons and Natasha Feroze.

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0:20.4

Hello and welcome to the Americano podcast, a series of discussions about American politics, power and prejudices.

0:29.7

It is 2025 and Donald Trump is president once again of the United States.

0:36.2

We will, of course, be following the moves of the Donald

0:39.3

and his second administration very closely.

0:42.9

However, it won't just be politics for us this year.

0:45.6

We'll also talk a lot and cover American culture, life and the arts.

0:51.3

I should also remind you, because my producer, Natasha Natasha will not let me hear the end of it,

0:56.2

that we are on Spectator TV. So head to our YouTube channel to watch that.

1:03.3

Hello and welcome to Americano. I'm your guest host, Kate Andrews, and I'm joined by the

1:07.5

Spectators Deputy Editor Freddie Gray and our columnist Lionel Shriver.

1:12.1

The Golden Age begins right now, said Donald Trump in his inauguration speech today.

1:18.0

Freddie, you're on the ground in Washington, D.C. Are you witnessing a Golden Age unfold?

1:23.5

Well, I'm not on the ground. I'm quite high up in an apartment block on Pennsylvania Avenue.

1:29.6

And all I can see is some snipers. And unfortunately, it would have been a great view of the parade from here.

1:33.7

But unfortunately, the parade doesn't seem to be going down because of security fears.

1:37.6

But as for the mood on the ground, you have to go pretty far out away from the capital to really talk to people because everything else is

1:44.3

unbelievably secure, just get shouted out by policemen everywhere and National Guard officers.

1:50.4

But I would say, you know, there are a lot of MAGA people here and they're having a good

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