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The Book Club: what we get wrong about The Great Gatsby

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🗓️ 22 January 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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In this week’s Book Club podcast, we’re contemplating the astounding achievement of F. Scott Fitzgerald’s The Great Gatsby in its 100th year. My guest is Professor Sarah Churchwell, author of Careless People: Murder, Mayhem and the Making of The Great Gatsby, as well as the introduction to Cambridge University Press’s new edition of the novel. Sarah tells me what we get wrong about this Jazz Age classic, why Fitzgerald’s antisemitism shouldn’t necessarily get him cancelled, and how Fitzgerald’s great novel traces the arc that leads from 1925 to Donald Trump’s second inauguration.

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Hello and welcome to The Spectator's Book Club podcast.

0:30.0

I'm Sam Leith, the literary edge of The Spectator.

0:39.2

And this week, we're going to be celebrating 100 years since the publication of F. Scott Fitzgerald's masterpiece, The Great Gatsby. And I'm joined by one of the languages leading authorities on the subject, Professor Sarah Churchwell, who, as well as

0:44.2

having written a book about 10 years ago called Careless People, Murder Mayhem, and the invention

0:49.4

of the Great Gatsby, has also contributed an introduction to a magnificent new centennial edition published by Cambridge

0:55.9

of the Great Gatsby. Sarah, welcome.

0:59.0

Thanks so much for having me.

1:00.3

You say, as maybe a kind of central argument of the introduction you contribute to this book,

1:06.4

that nowadays we kind of get Gatsby wrong, that our idea about the book is not borne out by what the

1:15.5

book actually is. Can you explain why that is? Absolutely. Well, there's sort of two ways to answer

1:21.2

that question. One is kind of why that is in terms of how it came about and also why that is

1:26.6

in terms of how it plays out, if you see what I mean. And the question of how it came about and also why that is in terms of how it plays out, if you see what I mean.

1:29.2

And the question of how it came about is actually the easier one, which is mostly Hollywood.

1:34.4

So we have all these cliches about the 1920s and about the jazz age and about the roaring 20s,

1:39.5

and a lot of those come to us via Hollywood. And then what's happened is that we've kind of superimposed

1:44.9

those cliches back onto the novel. And we've made a bunch of assumptions. And this is probably

1:49.9

about adaptations of Gadsby specifically, but also more broadly, just, you know, kind of films and

1:54.8

stories of the 20s. And then we make a bunch of assumptions about this novel that we think is

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