Amor Fatty

Rune Soup

Gordon White

Magic, Occult, Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Philosophy, Paranormal, Ufo, Spirituality

4.7 • 861 Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2025

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

Hi from the Amazon jungle. Honestly, if I’d known that AI would do such a good job of describing this podcast, I would have left it in charge and stayed longer.

Although I will say, I asked it to write it in the style of the speaker, and it made me sound way more polite than I usually am to you scrubs.

Enjoy! (PS - you will find the same show in your podcatcher, as normal.)

In the heart of the Amazon, under a tin roof pummeled by tropical rain, I offer you a cosmic upgrade to Nietzsche's Amor Fati. While the German philosopher tells us to love our fate unconditionally, I'm proposing something more alchemical: co-creation with disappointment. It's not about passively accepting what happens, nor gaslighting yourself into loving the unlovable. Rather, it's asking "what choices do I have in the direction of beauty given the limitations before me in this moment?" Drawing from my own messy Paraguayan adventures during a Mars direct station in Cancer (sit down Scorpio risings, this one was truly mine to bear), I explore how this principle transforms practical enchantment beyond simple success/fail metrics into continuous creation. Whether you're dealing with planetary transits or broken water towers in indigenous villages, this approach connects the Dine concept of the Beauty Way with our magical capacity to participate in the unfolding of reality. Roll your suitcase through cosmic mud with me on this one.

00:02 - Introduction and recording conditions in the Amazon
00:48 - Explaining the concept of "Amor Fati" and Nietzsche's philosophy
02:23 - Comparing Nietzsche's idea with Stoicism's similar concept
04:37 - Why Gordon believes he's "more right" than both Nietzsche and the Stoics
06:49 - Co-creation with disappointment as an upgrade to "love your fate"
09:14 - Mars direct station and Cass Tyndall's insight on struggle
11:40 - How metaphysical laws relate to physical and psychological laws
14:06 - The moment-by-moment decision of co-creation and manifestation
16:05 - Lessons from Shipibo culture and challenging gaslight responses
18:21 - Finding beauty within disappointment and discomfort
20:47 - Moving beyond success/fail metrics in practical enchantment
21:58 - Continuous co-creation as a definition of magic

Transcript

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0:00.0	I'm recording this under a tin roof in the middle of the Amazon during a rainstorm.
0:08.0	And I've actually put my earplugs in my ears because I found, even though I'm hoping the AI will do its creaky magical thing and remove the background, or at least diminish the background for you, I found I was
0:22.1	shouting because, well, it's actually really, really loud. So that's where I am. So here we are
0:28.6	talking about Amor Fatti, which is a little nod to my favorite comedian Tim Dillon. I'm not sure
0:34.7	if he's used exactly this title, this exact podcast title, but he has one
0:40.8	from several years ago that has lived rent-free in my head ever since. And honestly, six
0:46.8	months of a time match at course, which we completed the last half of last year, God, there
0:51.9	were so many places where it could have been used, which is
0:54.6	time is a fat circle. But yes, I'm in the Amazon and I just completed a YouTube video that
1:03.5	is pointing at this podcast, which is about, I suppose, co-creation with disappointment. So it's my version of Nietzsche's love of fate,
1:14.5	or Amofati, which is the Latina, but my tangle is based on. Mine's better. Let me explain.
1:21.6	So Nietzsche's formula for a good life, for greatness, bigness, demands wanting nothing to be different, not forward, not backward, not in all eternity, which is more or less a direct quote as far as I could get on my phone with one bar of 4G on an easier.
1:42.9	But what that means is projecting resentment and wistfulness
1:50.5	and idealized alternatives,
1:54.0	what could have been, should have gone right,
1:56.1	instead I turned left to one's current experience.
1:59.2	Just say like, no, this is it and I fucking love it.
2:01.9	To want for nothing to be different, right? And so not forward is in a future and not backward is
2:08.1	in the past. This is where the, his idea of the eternal recurrence comes from as a thought
2:12.8	experiment. Right. Like only by desiring the eternal repetition of every moment can one affirm life so when bad things
2:22.9	are happening so-called bad things are happening like fuck yes and the the eternal recurrence
2:27.7	frame or thought experiment is like this is going to happen an infinite number of times,
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