Gandalf And The Ice Wall: You Shall Not Pass?
Rune Soup
Gordon White
4.7 • 861 Ratings
🗓️ 27 March 2025
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, I explore the shifting landscape of conspiracy culture and what I've been noticing about an emerging "conspiracy canon."
Recording from my new apartment in Paraguay, I dive into observations from my recent event with Greg Carlwood in Florida, examining how conspiracy thinking has evolved from political analysis to metaphysical questioning.
Using Charles Fort's framework of "dominants," I discuss how we're witnessing a paradigm shift toward a more meaning-centered worldview as a response to scientific materialism.
Whether you consider yourself a conspiracy person or not, this episode offers insights into epistemology, metaphysics, and our relationship to meaning in the cosmos.
Timestamps
00:00 - Introduction and setting the scene from Paraguay
02:15 - Recent event with Greg Carlwood in Florida
04:30 - The concept of a "Conspiracy Canon"
07:10 - Observing alignment among respected thinkers
09:05 - When brilliant people question fundamental assumptions
12:30 - Robert Anton Wilson on conspiracy culture shifting from left to right
15:45 - The "Alex Jones era" and libertarian influence
18:20 - The 80s-90s "Lone Gunman Era" conspiracy canon
21:40 - Today's conspiracy canon: no virus, flat Earth, aliens as demons, Tartaria
24:15 - The internet's "hold my beer" effect on conspiracy thinking
27:50 - Shift from "how things are" to "who we are in the cosmos"
31:10 - Natural drift toward meaning-seeking
34:30 - Pushback against scientific materialism
37:50 - Charles Fort and reality paradigm shifts
40:15 - Fort's "dominants" and "damned data"
43:40 - Accumulated "damned facts" challenging mainstream narratives
46:20 - The "religious dominant" as initial framework
49:30 - The "scientific dominant" and its exclusionist tendency
52:45 - Fort recognizing scientism's limitations ahead of his time
56:10 - The emergent "dominant of wider inclusions"
59:25 - Visit to Cassadega and Greg's psychic reading experience
01:02:40 - Kelly Brogan and Mark Gober's alternative cosmology
01:05:15 - Being "80% flat earther" on meaningful universe principles
01:09:30 - Flat Earth as Biblical literalism seeking meaning
01:12:45 - Critique of Tartaria theories
01:15:20 - Meme culture and uncritical sharing of conspiracy content
01:18:40 - "Realm theory" as a container for anomalous data
01:21:25 - Being "Gandalf among the hobbits" during paradigm shifts
01:24:50 - Fortean flow model for approaching change
01:27:30 - Closing thoughts on being a container for transformation
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | This is accidentally a fun place to be recording the first podcast in my apartment back in Ascuncione in Paraguay, |
| 0:10.6 | because I'm looking out a rear window, the second bedroom, which I've just had set up as my office, |
| 0:17.2 | looks out into the courtyard and across to the other building in my apartment building complex. |
| 0:22.1 | So it's, you know, it's giving some Hitchcock vibes, which is perfect for this episode. |
| 0:28.0 | Oh, and by the way, even if you think you know much of a conspiracy person, stick around. |
| 0:32.0 | This actually isn't that much of a conspiracy episode. |
| 0:34.7 | It's really more about epistemologies and metaphysics and so on. And the |
| 0:43.0 | invitation into that is me thinking with and processing the event that Greg Calwood and I had |
| 0:52.9 | in Florida a couple of weeks ago at High Springs |
| 0:55.4 | Brewery, which by the way, or Brewing Company, but it's a very small town. You'll find it one way or |
| 1:01.3 | the other. Fun venue, fun people, really, really good. And also afterwards, Greg and I had a |
| 1:06.2 | couple of days to do, you know, catching up and sightseeing and so on. So we were talking about this general material and what's going on |
| 1:15.7 | and conspiracy sliders and so on, |
| 1:17.6 | while driving around Florida to like Bokhtawa and other places. |
| 1:22.0 | So it made for a really good debrief, actually, |
| 1:24.8 | after some great conversations at the event, which, by the way, |
| 1:29.8 | if you are a premium member, you should be able to see the recording in the Rooms |
| 1:35.8 | Supreme Member Mighty Network in a new section called Bonus Member Material. |
| 1:40.1 | Prompt me if you show up and it's not there yet because I just need to switch it live. |
| 1:45.0 | But let me tell you why this event occurred to me. |
| 1:49.5 | I came up, brilliant person that I am, I came up with the idea, the title for it. |
| 1:53.2 | Is there a conspiracy canon, in a sense of C-A-N-O-N? |
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