The Welcome to Grusam, your horrific true crime podcast. I am Meg and Kim Kardashian Stan Connie is going to tell us about Amy Carnavale.

Yes, I have heard two different pronunciations of her name, the way you pronounced it,

Carnavale, which is what I would believe, A-Ed, then Carnavale, but I'm going with Carnavale.

Where is it?

I said it.

Boston.

That's why I said that.

Like, Boston.

Boston.

Boston.

And I will go ahead, but full disclosure it was not my plan to do another case like this.

I was scrolling on Facebook and one of the quickest ways for me to get off track in the things that I need to be doing is to click on one of those videos that are just scenes from other movies because...

Yes, I do that too because I'll just sit and scroll and watch like 20

minute clips from movies where I'm like damn I need to watch that movie again and then you

never go and watch the movie,

but like that is 100% I get on like Instagram or whatever,

just like clips of shows.

I'm like, 30 second clip of a show I'm like oh another another like I don't even watch

another one please another one so that's what happened I a couple weeks ago I was watching a clip and or I was watching those movies in a clip

from an old lifetime movie came up and it was a scene from the movie no one would tell and if you are not a lifetime girl like I am you're

probably like this doesn't mean anything to me but it was a movie that had Candice

your DJ from a full house and America's son Kevin Arnold from The Wonder Years, you know,

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