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The Daily

An F.B.I. Informant, a Bombshell Claim, and an Impeachment Built on a Lie

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.4K Ratings

🗓️ 4 March 2024

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

A single piece of unverified intelligence became the centerpiece of a Republican attempt to impeach President Biden. Michael S. Schmidt, an investigative reporter for The Times, explains how that intelligence was harnessed for political ends, and what happened once it was discredited.

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0:00.0

Let's see if we can do this. Do you want to hear some of what I thought about it?

0:08.9

I would like to hear that. I'd like to hear your thoughts on this episode, yeah.

0:11.6

I think this is a story about what happens

0:16.9

when intelligence and politics are braided together And it's a story about sources, who sources are and how

0:28.0

truthful they are and how much they can be trusted. And intelligence is not really what it sounds like.

0:38.0

Intelligence is the raw information, claims, mutterings, that the intelligence community collects as it tries to

0:47.0

understand the world. The problem with intelligence is that it's really alluring.

0:57.0

And this is a story about what happens when intelligence, this thing that should be closely guarded and used by government officials

1:06.0

to make decisions is harnessed by politicians for their political ends. From New York Times, I'm Michael Bobaro.

1:15.0

This is the Daily.

1:20.0

Today, Mike Schmidt, on how a single piece of unverified

1:27.6

intelligence became the centerpiece of a Republican attempt to impeach President Biden and what happened once that

1:36.0

intelligence was discredited.

1:41.0

It's Monday, March 4th.

1:45.0

So Mike, if this is a story.

1:47.0

So Mike, if this is a story about a piece of intelligence and its journey through our government,

2:00.0

I think we should start there with the piece of intelligence and the story behind it.

2:07.0

As you probably remember, heading into the 2020 election, Donald Trump rightly identified Joe Biden as his biggest

2:16.4

political problem and he dispatched his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani to dig up

2:22.4

dirt on the Biden family.

2:24.8

Giuliani went to Ukraine, he met with these officials and figures there, and he came back and is basically like Joe Biden's son's corrupt and

2:38.0

Joe Biden is part of it and made such a fuss that the attorney general, Bill Barr,

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